Don't Give Up Your Liberty !!

[C27H40O3]

I guess you read something different than I did.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I mentioned how many in my neighborhood are city workers either on a split schedule of working from home, and how they are enjoying the family time away from the rat race, and you respond by saying how you realize that those enjoying being home are worthless sheep draining society.

If i was out of line in my understanding of your reply, i apologize. You are a smart guy, i appreciate your previous help on issues I have posted, but I guess we just see municipal workers in a different light.

How many government workers, state, city, or federal, do you have in your family, or are good friends or neighbors with? probably less than me. that can account for our different perspectives.

[C27H40O3]

no shit .. put your damn thinking cap on! that was my damn point . people need to work. we need people to work, not sit on their ass collecting unemployment . the drain on society are those people who don't want to work and help society and choose to take money from tax payers instead .. those nurses, teachers, trash men, etc.. WANT to work and good for them they should work.

dude your to hasty to respond and never take a second to sit back and actually think and take things in .

I bet your one on those guys that if I were to have a discussion with you in person and I was talking and making my point, you would likely not be listening to it at all and too busy thinking about what your going to say next .. you never 'hear' , you only speak.
try sitting back, being quiet and soaking things in.


Even a fool, when he holdeth his words, is counted wise: [and] he that shutteth his lips is esteemed as a man of understanding.
proverbs 17

After I mention how I live in an area where alot of government workers are getting paid, but are allowed to stay home more and enjoy family time and seeing neighbors outside in the street. you are the one claiming that all i see is some beautiful utopia where nobody has to work. Where did you get that bullshit from reading my post? When did I say its a beautiful utopia?

My point is that folks could use a break from the rat race pace of life, and the ones who I know who were allowed to only come in part time, or stay at home for awhile appreciated the break. You claim that is a false hope utopia. Those are your words, not mine. Talk about a lack of critical thinking skills. I never mentioned getting unemployment in my post. There are folks who stay home involuntarily and still get paid. That was the point of my post. Not everyone staying home is on unemployment.

[C27H40O3]

show me where I ever used the words "city workers" .. your making shit up in your head and then arguing it.

you should take a class on critical thinking skills or something. your arguing with yourself really.

Show me where I said it is a blissful false utopia. Thats you making up shit.

[99JT]

I do realize plenty of "sheep" are enjoying this pandemic and getting paid to not work and sit at home.. but they are worthless sheep for the most part. they are a drain on society to begin with.



I can't get un-employment, lol. I'm a Shepard. I'm a business owner and employer.
I've lost 54,000 in revenue over night and all my income. the state simply says "too bad" you can't open and provide for your family.
meanwhile you sheep go ahead and sit on your ass and collect your government check in your government savior utopia

actually i think you can get unemployment. sadly even if you didn't have a job before but just say you were looking for employment and you qualify. ive had people tell me how nice it is that their making more on unemployment than they do working....well ya better take some pain pills and bend over now.

[99JT]

...................................
Free smart watches from the government coming soon.

https://accent-systems.com/covid-19-...cing-solution/

[GearHeaded]

A tyrant does not generally come out and say "I'm a Tyrant" .. Tyranny is usually masked behind other words..
like

"its for the common good"
"if it saves just one life"
"we must work together"

and some of the scariest words you could ever hear in your life
"I'm with the government, I'm here to help you"

^ those are the words of a Tyrant


When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny

world has been turned upside down.. governments are absolute fear mongers today . instilling fear everywhere. need to get back to true liberty where governments fear the people

[99JT]

A tyrant does not generally come out and say "I'm a Tyrant" .. Tyranny is usually masked behind other words..
like

"its for the common good"
"if it saves just one life"
"we must work together"

and some of the scariest words you could ever hear in your life
"I'm with the government, I'm here to help you"

^ those are the words of a Tyrant


When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny

world has been turned upside down.. governments are absolute fear mongers today . instilling fear everywhere. need to get back to true liberty where governments fear the people

Exactly. I was in the national guard for 12 years and 99% of the disaster relief I participated in was just to show our presence and make people think we were actually helping when we were really just BSing. We'd go around asking if people needed anything when really their was nothing we could do, also waste a lot of time staging for photos so the media could put them out and make it look like we really cared.

[XnavyHMCS]

Hey, you guys heard anything about this:

H.R. 5717
A House Bill which will add 30% tax on allguns and a 50% tax on ammo, and also require a federal license to purchase both of these...

I am sure that you gents here on the forum have already discussed this...??? I am living for the past years outside of the States (with changes like this and others, I can't say I miss it either) and am way outside of the loop...

Also, concerning a lose of liberty:

I heard that to board a domestic flight in the States, yo have to have a special permit / addition onto your driving license or ID card. My sister said it is some type of star on the driving license in her state, Indiana.

Anyone heard of something like this?

I have to ask, only because my sister did her fair share of illicit drugs, probably more than some third world nations consume in a years time, and she may or may not be considered a reliable source...

Heard of any of this?

[charger69]

Simple solution.... join an Indian tribe. The local requirements are not enforceable on tribal land. The local tribes are opening their casinos on Monday and saying fuck you rot the local enforcement agencies


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Proximal]

Hey, you guys heard anything about this:

H.R. 5717
A House Bill which will add 30% tax on allguns and a 50% tax on ammo, and also require a federal license to purchase both of these...

I am sure that you gents here on the forum have already discussed this...??? I am living for the past years outside of the States (with changes like this and others, I can't say I miss it either) and am way outside of the loop...

Also, concerning a lose of liberty:

I heard that to board a domestic flight in the States, yo have to have a special permit / addition onto your driving license or ID card. My sister said it is some type of star on the driving license in her state, Indiana.

Anyone heard of something like this?

I have to ask, only because my sister did her fair share of illicit drugs, probably more than some third world nations consume in a years time, and she may or may not be considered a reliable source...

Heard of any of this?

New taxes and budget cuts. Public education going down the toilet in California.

And more folks infected & dying.

Shit keeps getting better & better.


Did my yard work, my school work, my r-bands - fulfilling day. It’s now the beginning of happy hours.

[charger69]

New taxes and budget cuts. Public education going down the toilet in California.

And more folks infected & dying.

Shit keeps getting better & better.


Did my yard work, my school work, my r-bands - fulfilling day. It’s now the beginning of happy hours.

You forgot that people are refusing to go back to work because they make more with the handouts!

It was all inevitable with just stopping the economy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Proximal]

Personally, I miss the lock down. The streets & freeway were barren, the police had better things to do than write tickets. I could crank up my metal and take my beast for long fast drives. Only problem is I have to wash it myself & the windows are a bitch to get perfect.

[C27H40O3]

Personally, I miss the lock down. The streets & freeway were barren, the police had better things to do than write tickets. I could crank up my metal and take my beast for long fast drives. Only problem is I have to wash it myself & the windows are a bitch to get perfect.

exactly. i was doing 90 mph routinely with barely a car on the road, and that is on the highways of New York City. Now, it sucks, its back to normal, with traffic everywhere.

[C27H40O3]

You forgot that people are refusing to go back to work because they make more with the handouts!

It was all inevitable with just stopping the economy.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If the government money was paying them more than working, that shows you right there that their wages were artificially low.

Government payment rates are figured based on the contemplated cost to get by. If your job doesnt normally pay you that much, there is a problem there, somebody is pocketing the wages that should have accrued to you.

[C27H40O3]

Also, concerning a lose of liberty:

I heard that to board a domestic flight in the States, yo have to have a special permit / addition onto your driving license or ID card. My sister said it is some type of star on the driving license in her state, Indiana.

Anyone heard of something like this?

I have to ask, only because my sister did her fair share of illicit drugs, probably more than some third world nations consume in a years time, and she may or may not be considered a reliable source...

Heard of any of this?

read about it here:

https://www.tsa.gov/real-id

REAL ID
Flying with a REAL ID

Beginning October 1, 2021, every air traveler 18 years of age and older will need a REAL ID-compliant driver’s license, state-issued enhanced driver’s license, or another acceptable form of ID to fly within the United States.

Check for the star.
REAL ID-compliant cards are marked with a star at the top of the card. If you’re not sure, contact your state driver’s license agency on how to obtain a REAL ID compliant card.

For information by state, including where to obtain a REAL ID, visit the DHS REAL ID website and click your state on the map.

Note: Legacy Ohio driver’s licenses have a gold star marking on the card, however REAL ID compliant Ohio driver’s licenses have a black cut-out star. If you are not sure whether your card is compliant, contact the Ohio driver’s license issuing agency.

About enhanced driver's licenses.
Michigan, Vermont, Minnesota, and New York states issue REAL ID and state-issued enhanced driver’s licenses, both of which are acceptable. Washington state issues enhanced driver’s licenses only.

State-issued enhanced driver's licenses are marked with a flag. These documents will be accepted at the airport security checkpoint when the REAL ID enforcement goes into effect.

It’s the law.
Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11 Commission's recommendation that the federal government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.” The Act and implementing regulations establish minimum security standards for state-issued driver's licenses and identification cards and prohibit federal agencies, like TSA, from accepting licenses and identification cards from states that do not meet these standards for official purposes, such as getting through the airport security checkpoint to board a plane. Learn more about REAL ID enforcement.

Just look for this star on the licenses:

[GearHeaded]

If the government money was paying them more than working, that shows you right there that their wages were artificially low.

Government payment rates are figured based on the contemplated cost to get by. If your job doesnt normally pay you that much, there is a problem there, somebody is pocketing the wages that should have accrued to you.

the thing is, the money people are getting paid to sit at home isn't "real money" per se.. its just being printed and distributed like monopoly game money , there is no real 'wealth' being created right now.
these. people think they are getting something for nothing from the govt. but in the long run they will pay it back 10 fold, they will be more poor in the long run then they are now. both they and their children .
real wealth is created by physical work, creating products, business commerce etc.. not by a money printing machine .
the longer these people sit at home, the more poor they will get and the more dire their future will be

[Proximal]

exactly. i was doing 90 mph routinely with barely a car on the road, and that is on the highways of New York City. Now, it sucks, its back to normal, with traffic everywhere.

It’s amusing, in more than a few regions, deaths from car accidents are up (particularly single car) for this very reason. Freeways out here are usually open on Sunday morning, where I can normally stretch it’s legs a bit. But mid-day I was doing 110 and not necessarily blowing by people. Put on my metal & I’m in heaven!

Think it’s time for a detail though, exterior only. I want to throw my guy some business.

[C27H40O3]

the thing is, the money people are getting paid to sit at home isn't "real money" per se.. its just being printed and distributed like monopoly game money , there is no real 'wealth' being created right now.
these. people think they are getting something for nothing from the govt. but in the long run they will pay it back 10 fold, they will be more poor in the long run

How appropriate it is then that Trump demanded that his name be printed on each check.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Proximal]

How appropriate it is then that Trump demanded that his name be printed on each check.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I actually start each day laughing because what this numbskull has said or done; if this shit wasn’t so said, it would actually be funny.

[99JT]

If they are making 5x what they were when they were working, that is a pretty clear sign that wages are ridiculously low in this country and we need a raise.

We haven’t gotten a raise of real income relative to prices since the mid 1970”s. Up until then, our standard of living increased every year. We could buy more than we could the year before. Then it ended. Our wages have stagnated since then.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...d-for-decades/

For most U.S. workers, real wages have barely budged in decades

After adjusting for inflation, however, todayÂ’s average hourly wage has just about the same purchasing power it did in 1978, following a long slide in the 1980s and early 1990s and bumpy, inconsistent growth since then. In fact, in real terms average hourly earnings peaked more than 45 years ago: The $4.03-an-hour rate recorded in January 1973 had the same purchasing power that $23.68 would today.


Productivity has soared. Those increased corporate profits have not been shared with workers, as they had been for decades after WW2. They have accrued to the pockets of the 1%.

The intoxicating lure of cheap Chinese and other overseas produced consumer products has kept our mouths shut on the issue. We were fooled into thinking that we were doing ok. Corporations didnÂ’t have to raise our wages, since we could buy cheaper and cheaper chinesium junk for the same paycheck.

The fact is that we were doubly screwed by that dynamic because not only does it depress our wages, but millions of us lost our jobs when production facilities moved to the other side the world.

The rich laugh at how stupid we are, when the working class actually bashes unions. They laugh all the way to the bank.

One of the most important rules of maintaining power is to ensure that those looking to move up and share some of it are turned against each other at every opportunity. Such is the case when you see workers in the south, the land of depressed wages, especially in those right-to-work-for-less states, protesting against unionization.

Or when you have one group complaining that another group has benefits that are “too generous” or “gold plated”. Such jealousy encourages a race to the bottom, rather than an increased standard of living.

Poor brainwashed fools, acting against their own best interest.

There is an old saying, something to the effect that “unions were so successful in raising the standard of living of their members that the members actually thought they were Republicans”

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

One specific person I'm thinking of only works 10 hours a week, refuses to work any more, and turned down a well paying job simply because they will loose their government benefits. The jobs and money are out their some people just don't want to work for it.

[GearHeaded]

How appropriate it is then that Trump demanded that his name be printed on each check.

ummm, well he is president and commander and chief of the entire US . did you ever notice that there is a presidents face on a dollar bill lol

[GearHeaded]

How appropriate it is then that Trump demanded that his name be printed on each check.

Trumps name is on a stimulus check (he signed the stimulus bill) ,, and thats a big deal , lol .

meanwhile, this narcissist has his image printed on coins made by the US mint


but you don't mention that eh

[C27H40O3]

ummm, well he is president and commander and chief of the entire US . did you ever notice that there is a presidents face on a dollar bill lol

You must be Canadian or European,
He is not the commander chief of the entire US. Just the military. I am not in the military.

That money package was put together by Congress. You know it controls the purse strings of government. I guess by your logic Pelosi’s name should be in it instead.

We get IRS refund checks from the government every year, yet we never had such an insecure president that they needed to see their name on the check.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[GearHeaded]

You must be Canadian or European,
He is not the commander chief of the entire US. Just the military. I am not in the military.

the military didn't make Trump commander and chief , WE the People did, the American people put him in that position to represent us. not the military. the military itself had ZERO say in trump being commander and chief. therefore he is OUR (we the peoples) commander and chief over OUR military and citizenry .

[GearHeaded]

You must be European,

and thats the worst insult I've ever received . again, you go off on some stupid shit being clueless .. you need to take some time to think things through before you spout off such bullshit

[C27H40O3]

Trumps name is on a stimulus check (he signed the stimulus bill) ,, and thats a big deal , lol .

meanwhile, this narcissist has his image printed on coins made by the US mint


but you don't mention that eh

Aye, where do I even begin?

I don’t mention that because the series of presidential medals, collectible medals for coin buffs, contains every president up to the 44th, Obama. They are not sent to every qualified American to spend. Obama didn’t authorize a real monetary item of just his likeness. The mint made a set of every president to sell to collectors. It is not a negotiable instrument.

The medals have nothing to do with the issue. Congress didn’t authorize the medals, as it did with the stimulus checks.

You are conflating apples and oranges, which is nothing more than a red herring with regards to this conversation.


https://catalog.usmint.gov/medals/pr...ential-medals/




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[C27H40O3]

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[C27H40O3]

and thats the worst insult I've ever received . again, you go off on some stupid shit being clueless .. you need to take some time to think things through before you spout off such bullshit

You talk about bullshit, while posting a series of US mint medals honoring all the past US presidents, trying to smear Obama as being a narcissistic boob line Trump.

You are the one who doesn’t think or research before you post.
Stick to what you know about working out.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[GearHeaded]

You talk about bullshit, while posting a series of US mint medals honoring all the past US presidents, trying to smear Obama as being a narcissistic boob line Trump.

You are the one who doesn’t think or research before you post.
Stick to what you know about working out.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

stick to what you know ... which is nothing . go disappear fool

600 posts on this forum and not one of them has been beneficial to anyone on here ever

[C27H40O3]

I said European or Canadian, because even schoolchildren in this country know the president is not the “commander in Chief of the whole US”

You use a military title to suggest why his name should be on the stimulus check.

Every American knows the military has nothing to do with issuing Americans stimulus checks.

You must be Canadian then.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[GearHeaded]

get off my thread .. go take a bath with a toaster

[C27H40O3]

stick to what you know ... which is nothing . go disappear fool

600 posts on this forum and not one of them has been beneficial to anyone on here ever

I guess I should be flattered that you are taking the trouble to be looking into my post count.

I certainly don’t know yours.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[C27H40O3]

get off my thread .. go take a bath with a toaster

Check your E2 level, you seem a bit emotional tonight.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[GearHeaded]

I guess I should be flattered that you are taking the trouble to be looking into my post count.

I certainly don’t know yours.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

looking into it !?? your post count is displayed publicly in plain daylight right next to your screen name

[GearHeaded]

Check your E2 level, you seem a bit emotional tonight.

more ignorance .. you know little about how the presidency works and how the president is OUR, we the peoples, representative commander and chief (not the military) ,, and you know little about how E2 works as well. high E2 doesn't make you emotional, thats an old bro myth

[GearHeaded]

and I'm not emotional .. I'm tired of all the ignorance being spouted.

a 4th grader knows that the president is NOT someone thats a product of the military. the president is a regular citizen, he's chosen by we the people to represent us and become commander and chief over the military. its we the people who are in charge, and the president is our representative.. its therefore we the people who command and rule the military through our representative that we elected to do so.

Trump just 5 years ago was a normal citizen like me and you. just a businessman.. he wasn't military and never moved up the ranks. but now he is commander and chief. he has his finger on the button, sort of speak .. how is that? because thats the power of 'we the people' , we put our representatives in power. he is commander and chief because we the people put him there as our representative .
we the people rule this country. thats how this country was founded and what it was built upon. thats why a normal citizen , like trump, can be a citizen one day, and then the most powerful man in the world and commander of our military the next day. . he never had to move up any military ranks to earn the right to have his finger on the button ,, he simply got put there because we the people put him there

he has the power to nuke entire countries , cause we the people gave him that power .. yet your going to complain because his name is on a stimulus check that came from a bill that he signed and put into law for "we the people" .. thats ridiculous

[Proximal]

Hey!?! Can we end this ?

[GearHeaded]

Hey!?! Can we end this ?

yes .. as soon as grown adults that like to talk politics at least go back and read basic American history before ever speaking a word about politics again .



people like C27H shouldn't even speak about politics without at least a 4th grader understanding of the basics

[Proximal]

Man, we’ve all been hitting each other’s buttons.
Is anyone “right or wrong?”.

[The road]

yes .. as soon as grown adults that like to talk politics at least go back and read basic American history before ever speaking a word about politics again .



people like C27H shouldn't even speak about politics without at least a 4th grader understanding of the basics

I want to add... It is written in strange style but also check out the communist manifesto by marx.

Its worth the read because it gives a perspective of what to watch out for which is 100% of the media and college material today.

Its like looking through the enemies eyes.