The mainstream media did this to America

[Proximal]

I am curious guys. What’s your feelings on the Atlanta killing (dude fell asleep in the drive-thru)?

[GearHeaded]

Do you really need me to go dig up the stats on the disproportionate amount of blacks that are in prison for non-violent offenses? The ones about how they were, by more than a factor of ten, impacted more than any other race by the War on Drugs and it’s methods, including stop and frisk nonsense?
How about how most of said non-violent offenders end up with absurd sentences due to piling on of time for shit like possession of a firearm?

I’m not putting this all at the feet of the police. The legislature is even more to blame.
Honestly, most of us here are fucking criminals in all but being caught and convicted. We just have the benefits of having controlled substance choices that are much harder to find, and due to their nature, don’t require as frequent of dosing for effect.

'warning' - conspiracy theory to follow .

I agree with whats in bold.. apart from seeing videos of cops unloading bricks from the trunk of their police car, seeing them bust out windows of cars and businesses, etc.. and blame it on rioters in black neighborhoods.
I've heard that for years confiscated drugs and guns from the "war on drugs" by the FBI/DEA have been purposely redistributed in black neighborhoods . to keep them criminals , to lock them up, keep them killing each other , etc..

Slavery was never really abolished it was just transferred and made into a prison system to be traded on the stock market

[C27H40O3]

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Now, since you like statistics, what happens as the encounter rate with police goes up for a specific group?

I didnt see this the first time. I can infer from your question that you acknowledge the greater possibilities of problems as the encounter rate with police goes up.

That whole phenomenon you refer to is the reason why, in my city, the numbers of black folks engaged in dealings with the cops is much higher than that of other groups, relative to their population. They get tired of seeing cops everywhere in the neighborhood. They get resentful and start to resist what seems like an army of occupation.

The problem is that it is no accident the cops are there, they are responding to where the crime trends are. My local newspaper said the police department has a policy to “put cops on dots”. It was made famous by boston police chief Bratton in the early 1990s. You plot reported crime on a map, then assign cops there to keep the people from getting victimized. They dont flood the white neighborhoods in my city because that’s not where the crime is.

More cops in an area aggressively addressing crime conditions will necessarily conflict with young folks who like to cause public disorder like smashing bottles on the street, fighting in the street, blasting car radios in front of buildings, damaging parked cars, getting drunk and hassling folks.

Go to the areas with tall housing projects, old tenements, broken down apartment buildings, and there will always be large groups of youth out front, usually causing some kind of ruckus. Go to the white areas of private homes, you dont observe that kind of stuff.

I am speaking of my city. Your mileage may vary. I just know what i see here.


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[C27H40O3]

You said "There is no more serious issue than preventable death."

I pointed out that being obese is a death sentence and is avoidable.

You obviously are a hypocrite because you say one thing but practice another.

That’s what i am referring to. If the BLM shit was for real they would be bringing attention to those health issues of the black “community”. It is a wasted opportunity. They could really save lives.


I enjoy my life, how i live it is my business, but thanks for your, i’m sure, heartfelt concern.


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[C27H40O3]

I am curious guys. What’s your feelings on the Atlanta killing (dude fell asleep in the drive-thru)?

The cop was cool right up the point he decided to fuck with the guy after telling him to go to sleep. He ran the plate and saw it came back to a rental car company, and he totally changed gears. Up to that point he was actually helping. There was no reason to lock up that guy. But then again, the ridiculous DWI laws are draconian, and they have criminalized two generations of Americans now. They should be abolished.

The black guy was cool right up the point that he resisted arrest. He seemed like a nice guy, but that was when drunk. He sobered right up when he felt those cuffs go on.

That DWI trained cop was a dick, pretending to be friendly, then locking him up after being all chummy with him.


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[GearHeaded]

I am curious guys. What’s your feelings on the Atlanta killing (dude fell asleep in the drive-thru)?

a white male in a rural town 30 years ago , falling asleep in his car from drinking ,, would likely be left alone to sleep it off or would of been kindly driven home by an officer or the officer would of tried to call a family member to pick him up .. NOT shot twice in the back and murdered .
sleeping drunk in your car is a minor offense . no officer has a right to be judge jury and executioner .

cops have gotten out of hand.
I realized this when I too had a very minor offense and had 5 cops throw me to the ground and draw guns to my head. over a "crime" I didn't even commit.. they themselves escalated the situation. had I been black perhaps I'd of likely been shot , idk.


the guy in Atlanta should of lived to see another day . his response to the cops was to run and get away ... umm well yeah thats black culture, thats what you do. you try to get away cause other wise the system is going to imprison you and torture you . so of course he tried to run away.. but running away is a minor offense and no way should that minor of an offense result in getting shot in the back from a racist KKK cop

I've said this before .. I used to be a runner and do 5ks etc.. but my knees and back are jacked up now. so I'm never running again .. unless its from the cops (hopefully I don't get shot in the back)

[Proximal]

The cop was cool right up the point he decided to fuck with the guy after telling him to go to sleep. He ran the plate and saw it came back to a rental car company, and he totally changed gears. Up to that point he was actually helping. There was no reason to lock up that guy. But then again, the ridiculous DWI laws are draconian, and they have criminalized two generations of Americans now. They should be abolished.

The black guy was cool right up the point that he resisted arrest. He seemed like a nice guy, but that was when drunk. He sobered right up when he felt those cuffs go on.

That DWI trained cop was a dick, pretending to be friendly, then locking him up after being all chummy with him.


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I’d forgotten your stance on DUI (which I completely disagree with and won’t debate). However it is still a law & one to be enforced objectively.

[C27H40O3]

you are dumb as a rock.

do you know what regardless means??

you are dumb as a rock.

do you know what regardless means??

All they have to do to really materially help black folks is to add another “regardless” in their mission statement.

Yada yada all black lives matter blah blah, regardless of the race of those who take our lives. The value of black lives is not diminished when when they die at the hands of blacks.

This would demonstrate that all black lives really do matter, not just those who die involved with police action.


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[Proximal]

a white male in a rural town 30 years ago , falling asleep in his car from drinking ,, would likely be left alone to sleep it off or would of been kindly driven home by an officer or the officer would of tried to call a family member to pick him up .. NOT shot twice in the back and murdered .
sleeping drunk in your car is a minor offense . no officer has a right to be judge jury and executioner .

cops have gotten out of hand.
I realized this when I too had a very minor offense and had 5 cops throw me to the ground and draw guns to my head. over a "crime" I didn't even commit.. they themselves escalated the situation. had I been black perhaps I'd of likely been shot , idk.


the guy in Atlanta should of lived to see another day . his response to the cops was to run and get away ... umm well yeah thats black culture, thats what you do. you try to get away cause other wise the system is going to imprison you and torture you . so of course he tried to run away.. but running away is a minor offense and no way should that minor of an offense result in getting shot in the back from a racist KKK cop

I've said this before .. I used to be a runner and do 5ks etc.. but my knees and back are jacked up now. so I'm never running again .. unless its from the cops (hopefully I don't get shot in the back)

Hell, in Chicago 40 years ago, the cops would help you home. But it’s now 2020.

Regarding the running from cops business, well I stated my case before and offended Charger and don’t want to do that again (JK Charger).

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I am still learning the details of the case so i will save my judgement.

I will say that there were two policeman and one guy with a non-lethal tazer.

I will say I believe he was shot in the back twice and a total of three times.

I would like to be able to view in slow motion before I cast judgement.

However....

Why the fuck did they burn down the Wendy's?!!!!!

[C27H40O3]

I’d forgotten your stance on DUI (which I completely disagree with and won’t debate). However it is still a law & one to be enforced objectively.

It’s punishing someone for what they might do, instead of what they have done.Most folks with a 0.08 BAC have no detectable difference in reaction time or driving ability.

That comes right from MADD, who are using it as an excuse to expand the use of onerous checkpoints on the backroads. They are actually admitting that some activity is so innocuous and harmless that they need to have the government needlessly further impede our freedom of movement and travel just to uncover said activity.

Everyone should be against checkpoints. It’s like stopping and searching every pedestrian who crosses a street in certain areas to stop the carrying of unlicensed guns.

I believe that the violation of our freedoms is an improper exercise of the police power of the state.


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[C27H40O3]

Why the fuck did they burn down the Wendy's?!!!!!

Because Wendy’s provided the video tape that will clear the cops in the end. It showed the guy turn and shoot the tazer at the cop.

You cant appease terrorists. I see our society has broken their long standing principle of not giving into them.


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[The Deadlifting Dog]

It’s punishing someone for what they might do, instead of what they have done.

So by that reasoning....

Plotting to bomb an embassy is fine because they haven't done it?
Remember: just because they are plotting doesn't mean they will...
Remember you said: "It’s punishing someone for what they might do, instead of what they have done."

If it isn't fine then:
1: Can we stop them from plotting further...
Or...
2: Just wait and try to catch them in the act...
Or...
3: Do we have to wait until the bomb goes off?

Now, I understand your point that 0.08 (or whatever it is) might be too low.
In that case, make it higher.
But...
There has to be some limit at which someone is obviously driving impaired and endangering the lives of others.

[C27H40O3]

Hell, in Chicago 40 years ago, the cops would help you home. But it’s now 2020.

Regarding the running from cops business, well I stated my case before and offended Charger and don’t want to do that again (JK Charger).

I got driven home in NY almost 40 years ago. 1981 i was driving a girl home after a night at the disco. She was fucking around with the wheel when i was driving, trying to turn into a donut spot. No sooner did i push her away and look in the mirror, did i see a cop right behind me. He pulled me over and saw i was a bit drunk. I lived close but i was driving her to Brooklyn. He gave us a ride to my crib a mile away, and thanks to him, i got laid because she was with me for the night now.


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[Proximal]

It’s punishing someone for what they might do, instead of what they have done.Most folks with a 0.08 BAC have no detectable difference in reaction time or driving ability.

That comes right from MADD, who are using it as an excuse to expand the use of onerous checkpoints on the backroads. They are actually admitting that some activity is so innocuous and harmless that they need to have the government needlessly further impede our freedom of movement and travel just to uncover said activity.

Everyone should be against checkpoints. It’s like stopping and searching every pedestrian who crosses a street in certain areas to stop the carrying of unlicensed guns.

I believe that the violation of our freedoms is an improper exercise of the police power of the state.


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I have a life which is why I won’t post dozens of research papers that shows there is a change in reaction time.

[Proximal]

I got driven home in NY almost 40 years ago. 1981 i was driving a girl home after a night at the disco. She was fucking around with the wheel when i was driving, trying to turn into a donut spot. No sooner did i push her away and look in the mirror, did i see a cop right behind me. He pulled me over and saw i was a bit drunk. I lived close but i was driving her to Brooklyn. He gave us a ride to my crib a mile away, and thanks to him, i got laid because she was with me for the night now.


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I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but those were different times. In the south side of Chicago, cops were bribed and our strip bar offered “services” downstairs. Bars should close by 4 am, but if that still was too early for you and needed to keep drinking; guess what, cops also let another bar stay open. Cruising with beers was the norm and my buddy would generally park his car on the front lawn near the front porch, because he was absolutely blitzed. But the cops knew him and gave him a pass.

I got off of a DUI 30 years ago, because I knew I was well over the limit, but was honest, polite & respectful. It also helped that I was less than a block from home.

Honestly, it does help being white in both of the places that I mentioned as well.

[GearHeaded]

Why the fuck did they burn down the Wendy's?!!!!!

probably was cause of that whole meat shortage thing and Wendy's stopped serving hamburgers .. you don't want to F with no meat eaters

[GearHeaded]

I’m not saying it’s right or wrong, but those were different times. In the south side of Chicago, cops were bribed and our strip bar offered “services” downstairs. Bars should close by 4 am, but if that still was too early for you and needed to keep drinking; guess what, cops also let another bar stay open. Cruising with beers was the norm and my buddy would generally park his car on the front lawn near the front porch, because he was absolutely blitzed. But the cops knew him and gave him a pass.

I got off of a DUI 30 years ago, because I knew I was well over the limit, but was honest, polite & respectful. It also helped that I was less than a block from home.

Honestly, it does help being white in both of the places that I mentioned as well.

I got a DUI at my own house... heck no offer to bring me home, I was home! I was washing my car in the driveway then I pulled it out to turn it around and back it up the other direction and I slipped the clutch on some sand (they sand the crap out of the roads here cause all the snow and ice we get) and the car went into the trees (500 hp race tires a clutch and sand on the road don't mix well)
I got pissed that my car was in the trees and so started taking shots of whisky big time. while looking up tow trucks to get my car out of the trees.
well where I live we have neighborhood security guards that drive around (such a perk of living in a wealthy area eh) . well they saw the car off the road and called the cops to come check it out.. cops show up 3 hours later and I'm pretty drunk and pissed off by that time. they arrest me and give me a DUI for drinking in my own home.

the DUI business has become a money making business . the cops criminalize everyone now and hand out DUIs like candy to keep feeding the system.
another guy I know got arrested for sitting in his driveway drinking a beer in his truck listening to music. he got a DUI sitting in his own driveway. wtf.
now they have lowered the limit so much that having a single beer at a restaurant and driving home will catch you a DUI .. they are criminalizing the F out of people to indite them and take their money . I'm out at least 12k thus far from that DUI. heck even in jail I got a bill in the mail for the meals.. I had to pay thousands to get an interlock installed on my car. I had to go through nearly 2 years worth of mandatory DUI counseling every week, all of which I had to pay for. I had to piss in a cup 50+ times all of which piss tests I had to pay for.. etc etc..
they hand out DUIs like candy and lower the limits to criminalize normal people and take their money. its a scam.

I'm against drunk driving. if you go to a bar to get drunk then take an uber home or have a plan. don't ever drive drunk .. but people getting DUIs in their one driveway and all these road blocks they set up to try and catch someone for having one beer at happy hour after work is total bullshit .. they are just trying to take freedoms away and make money for themselves in the false front name of "public safety" .

in my state, in order to get a driver license you have to sign a waiver saying you can be taken into custody and blood tested at any time.
if you have car keys in your pocket and your just walking around down town bar hopping, an officer can just arrest you and take you in for blood test and if you refuse to get tested you get a max penalty DUI, when you weren't even anywhere near your car.
its a total loss of freedoms..
its not a black or white issue . this big govt bullshit system wants to own and take away from everyone.

slavery by rich white left wing elitists was never abolished, it was simply transferred to include everyone now

[C27H40O3]

a white male in a rural town 30 years ago , falling asleep in his car from drinking ,, would likely be left alone to sleep it off or would of been kindly driven home by an officer or the officer would of tried to call a family member to pick him up .. NOT shot twice in the back and murdered .
sleeping drunk in your car is a minor offense . no officer has a right to be judge jury and executioner .

another of your disingenuous posts, where you set up a straw man. The cop didnt act as a judge and jury or executioner. ANd the shooting was not for DWI. It was for illegally using an instrument capable of causing serious physical injury against the cop.

cops have gotten out of hand.
I realized this when I too had a very minor offense and had 5 cops throw me to the ground and draw guns to my head. over a "crime" I didn't even commit.. they themselves escalated the situation. had I been black perhaps I'd of likely been shot , idk.

and if you just complied with instructions, perhaps 5 cops wouldnt have felt the need to pull guns and put you on the ground. You must have done something to bring on that behaviour. I have been stopped by cops in my younger days. Pulled out of my car and had my car searched a couple of times. Once they said I had the same name in the computer as someone wanted, yet they never looked at my ID to match it to my plate. ANother time they said it was because my view was obstructed by my italian horn plastic thing hanging on my mirror. I didnt start shit with them. i knew couldnt win.

the guy in Atlanta should of lived to see another day . his response to the cops was to run and get away ... umm well yeah thats black culture, thats what you do. you try to get away cause other wise the system is going to imprison you and torture you . so of course he tried to run away.. but running away is a minor offense and no way should that minor of an offense result in getting shot in the back from a racist KKK cop

ANother strawman argument. You either didnt watch the video, and you are listening to the BLM propaganda, or you are purposefully distorting the facts. he WASNT shot for running away. He was shot for illegally using an instrument capable of causing serious physical injury or permanent impairment of bodily function against a cop. I do agree with you that the problem is black culture.

ANd what evidence do you have that either cop was a KKK member or a racist? Falsely claiming that the cop was racist and part of the KKK is like saying, absent of any proof, that Brooks was a black militant who just wanted to assasinate cops. Its the same kind of bullshit baseless smear.

They seemed very civil to him throughout the encounter. Be honest, if he didnt fight, run, and try to assault the cops, he would have been out of jail the next morning with a notice to appear.

I've said this before .. I used to be a runner and do 5ks etc.. but my knees and back are jacked up now. so I'm never running again .. unless its from the cops (hopefully I don't get shot in the back)

You go on and run from the cops, and let us know how that works out for you.

[Proximal]

probably was cause of that whole meat shortage thing and Wendy's stopped serving hamburgers .. you don't want to F with no meat eaters

This cracked me up. BTW, the series is created by a black activist and has won awards from the NAACP

https://youtu.be/jE_mjPDAfAk

[Proximal]

GH, had to post this one for you on slavery . . . . .

https://youtu.be/ZrZZQzyhp7g

[C27H40O3]

I’d forgotten your stance on DUI (which I completely disagree with and won’t debate). However it is still a law & one to be enforced objectively.

So is the law on using force against another by means of a dangerous instrument, the Tazer.

Robbery is the taking of property from another using force. Brooks took the Tazer by force from the cop, thereby legally constituting a robbery. He used that dangerous instrument against the cop, as is evidenced by the video of him firing it at the cop while running.

Fleeing the police while posing a threat of serious physical harm to the cops gives the cops the right to use deadly force to apprehend you. All he had to do was submit to arrest, or in the extreme case, if he was feeling like committing another crime, just run, and he would not have been shot.

In 1985, the Supreme Court ended the use of deadly force to apprehend a fleeing felon, in the case entitled Tennessee v. Garner, 471 U.S. 1

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/471/1/

They left one important exception to that prohibition, to wit:

Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force. Thus, if the suspect threatens the officer with a weapon or there is probable cause to believe that he has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm, deadly force may be used if necessary to prevent escape



The cop was justified in using deadly force to take Brooks into custody. He committed the felony assault of the cops, and the felony of robbery of the tazer. He was armed with, and threatened the cop with, the weapon. He actually discharged it at the pursuing cops.

There is no way the DWI cop who shot him will be convicted. There is absolutely no way the other cop, who was first on the scene, will be convicted of anything at all. Even the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, who is handling the case, criticized the local prosecutor for arresting and charging the second cop. It is just so over the top. These arrests are in keeping with such knee jerk reactions for political reasons that we see lately in many places in the country.

Investigations take time. The needless rush to judgement, clearly undertaken to pander to, and appease violent terrorists in the streets who are threatening riots and arson will come back to bite them, just as the rush and overcharging in Baltimore of the Freddie Grey cops came back to ruin the reputation of that district attorney. After four acquittals, she dropped the charges against the last two cops, to save herself the total embarrassment that she brought on herself by trying to appease angry mobs calling for the heads of the cops.

[Proximal]

I think you misinterpreted my post. I didn’t intend it to have anything with what you just posted.

In fact, I agree with much of what you just said here.

[Proximal]

Feeling good tonight guys. Gym is open & had 3 great workouts.

Can use my gear again knowing it’s being put to good use & eating clean. I feel more “normal”.

GH, congrats on your gym opening.

C27, let’s talk man, let’s get you lifting again. Come on, i’m 62, both my hips are replaced, 1 rotator cuff is largely torn off and my neck + back are arthritic. But there’s still a way to get in workouts. I can help if you’re interested.

OK, only 1/2 bottle done, but I’m feeling good & want to spread cheer, lol.

[GearHeaded]

^ idk .. should of just left the man alone to sleep it off in his car. he wasn't harming anyone or committing a violent crime. the arrival of the cops simply escalated the situation and someone then ends up shot and dead.
instead of calling 911 maybe the Wendy's could of simply called a cab for the guy to get home ... yeah no wonder they burnt the Wendy's down.

more people just need to mind their own business and leave other people alone and not be so quick to dial 911 and send people with guns and badges and anger issues into a simple situation (you know that cops are 4x more likely to commit domestic violence and beat their wives and kids then an average citizen.. they have a higher propensity towards violence cause the badge has went to their head.. look it up) .
why the heck did people with guns and handcuffs and who are naturally violent need to show up cause a man was sleeping in his car?


do you really need to send in violent men with guns, tasers, hand cuffs, etc.. because some random guy fell asleep drunk in his car .
no .. but cops really ain't got nothing better to do then to escalate simple situations and intimidate and even shoot regular citizens.

simply call a cab or uber or take his keys and let him sleep it off or call a family member to come pick him up ... instead your surrounded by violent men with guns that end up shooting you in the back when you tried to get away from the violence

I'm not for BLM at all . its a marxist transgender weirdo movement.. but I do understand why so many people are upset with the police (thats not all that new of a topic... been an issue for decades)

I could understand 911 being called if he was robbing the Wendy's at gun point .. but sleeping in his car. give me a break.
people who called 911 should have their hands chopped off so they can't ever dial that number again. they are partially responsible for the mans death imo

[GearHeaded]

GH, congrats on your gym opening.
.

appreciate it .. lots of other gyms around here all closed down permanently . so we are getting tons of new members signing up daily.
the 24 hour fitness, gold gyms, etc.. all closed down. those members now coming to my gym.

however.. I'm bored. need a new challenge and something else to do besides personal training and gym ownership.
may end up selling the gym and moving and going to do something else, idk.

[C27H40O3]

^ idk .. should of just left the man alone to sleep it off in his car. he wasn't harming anyone or committing a violent crime. the arrival of the cops simply escalated the situation and someone then ends up shot and dead.
instead of calling 911 maybe the Wendy's could of simply called a cab for the guy to get home ... yeah no wonder they burnt the Wendy's down.

more people just need to mind their own business and leave other people alone and not be so quick to dial 911 and send people with guns and badges and anger issues into a simple situation (you know that cops are 4x more likely to commit domestic violence and beat their wives and kids then an average citizen.. they have a higher propensity towards violence cause the badge has went to their head.. look it up) .

I did look it up, and I found multiple studies that showed much higher incidence of violence among steroid users, than the general population. I guess the gear goes to your head too.

Anabolic Steroid Abuse and Violence

https://search.informit.com.au/docum...205;res=IELHSS

Behavioural Manifestations of Anabolic Steroid Use

Adverse physical effects associated with steroid abuse are well documented, but more recently, increased attention has been given to the adverse psychiatric effects of these compounds. Steroids may be used in oral, 17α-alkylated, or intramuscular, 17β-esterified, preparations. Commonly, steroid users employ these agents at levels 10- to 100-fold in excess of therapeutic doses and use multiple steroids simultaneously, a practice known as ‘stacking’. Significant psychiatric symptoms including aggression and violence, mania, and less frequently psychosis and suicide have been associated with steroid abuse.


https://link.springer.com/article/10...00519070-00002

Why the heck did people with guns and handcuffs and who are naturally violent need to show up cause a man was sleeping in his car?

Again with the unsupported bullshit. What evidence do you have that these cops were "naturally violent". Ironically, there is evidence that Brooks was "naturally violent", as you put it. He was convicted of False Imprisonment, Simple Battery/Family, Battery Simple and Felony Cruelty/Cruelty to Children. He was on probation and didnt want to go back to jail.

I could understand 911 being called if he was robbing the Wendy's at gun point .. but sleeping in his car. give me a break.
people who called 911 should have their hands chopped off so they can't ever dial that number again. they are partially responsible for the mans death imo

Its funny how you blame a bunch of folks for his death, but you dont blame him.

[C27H40O3]

Feeling good tonight guys. Gym is open & had 3 great workouts.

Can use my gear again knowing it’s being put to good use & eating clean. I feel more “normal”.

GH, congrats on your gym opening.

C27, let’s talk man, let’s get you lifting again. Come on, i’m 62, both my hips are replaced, 1 rotator cuff is largely torn off and my neck + back are arthritic. But there’s still a way to get in workouts. I can help if you’re interested.

OK, only 1/2 bottle done, but I’m feeling good & want to spread cheer, lol.

thanks for the encouragement. everytime i try, i hurt muscles in my chest and upper arms and lower back. it must be something to do with the warmup.

my friend took me to his planet fitness. i went the next week to join, and they wanted a credit card AND a checking account number. Thats some bullshit there. I dot mind the credit card, but nobody is getting my routing number and checking account number to bill whatever the hell they want without my authorization. the credit card company will do chargebacks, if i didnt authorize a charge, or if they bill after I discontinue their services, but with my checking account info, i have no recourse.

[C27H40O3]

thanks for the encouragement. everytime i try, i hurt muscles in my chest and upper arms and lower back. it must be something to do with the warmup.

my friend took me to his planet fitness. i went the next week to join, and they wanted a credit card AND a checking account number. Thats some bullshit there. I dont mind the credit card, but nobody is getting my routing number and checking account number to bill whatever the hell they want without my authorization. the credit card company will do chargebacks, if i didnt authorize a charge, or if they bill after I discontinue their services, but with my checking account info, i have no recourse.

EDIT: this is a repost, fixing a spelling error, since the edit button disappeared.

[C27H40O3]

The mayor is atlanta ordered the police chief to fire the cops, she had too much integrity and refused and he demoted her, and got someone else to do it. she knew the cops were justified in doing what they did.

[GearHeaded]

I did look it up, and I found multiple studies that showed much higher incidence of violence among steroid users, than the general population. I guess the gear goes to your head too.

Anabolic Steroid Abuse and Violence

https://search.informit.com.au/docum...205;res=IELHSS

Behavioural Manifestations of Anabolic Steroid Use

Adverse physical effects associated with steroid abuse are well documented, but more recently, increased attention has been given to the adverse psychiatric effects of these compounds. Steroids may be used in oral, 17α-alkylated, or intramuscular, 17β-esterified, preparations. Commonly, steroid users employ these agents at levels 10- to 100-fold in excess of therapeutic doses and use multiple steroids simultaneously, a practice known as ‘stacking’. Significant psychiatric symptoms including aggression and violence, mania, and less frequently psychosis and suicide have been associated with steroid abuse.


https://link.springer.com/article/10...00519070-00002




Again with the unsupported bullshit. What evidence do you have that these cops were "naturally violent". Ironically, there is evidence that Brooks was "naturally violent", as you put it. He was convicted of False Imprisonment, Simple Battery/Family, Battery Simple and Felony Cruelty/Cruelty to Children. He was on probation and didnt want to go back to jail.




Its funny how you blame a bunch of folks for his death, but you dont blame him.

whats your point ?

steroid user stats (umm plenty of guys on the police force use steroids by the way) ... like what the heck is your point in posting that ? I don't get it.

are you trying to take a dig against steroid users when your the one on a damn steroid forum ?

go find a politics and weak ass trump hating forum then

I'm completely confused as to what the point of your post is..
I'm supposed to blame a guy for getting shot in the back and murdered?

your on a steroid forum trying to say that steroid users are violent , when its well documented that cops kill thousands of people every year . where is the documentation that steroid abusing bodybuilders do that?
you've totally lost me as to what the F your point is or why your even on a steroid forum in the first place .

go shoot 2 grams of Tren , do some cardio, and bench 315 for reps .. then come back when you've become a real man and actually belong on a steroid forum instead of just stirring up shit politics .
you barely make it to the gym , you talk down on steroid use , you have no clue about diet ... why the heck are you on a bodybuilding steroid forum then ? !!!!!!!!!!!! ???

if I do an advanced search and type in the words "Trump" and type in your user name .. you come up number one . even though you haven't even been a member here very long . you have used the word "trump" more then anyone on this board and seems your mission here is simply political .
I'd like to see you post in the diet and training section of the forums . you'd probably learn a lot more rather then trying to downplay and bash everyone on political topics. lets see what your macros and training looks like big man with such big political views always thinking he has all the right answers yet probably couldn't probably even walk around the block without passing out from exhaustion .

[Proximal]

thanks for the encouragement. everytime i try, i hurt muscles in my chest and upper arms and lower back. it must be something to do with the warmup.

my friend took me to his planet fitness. i went the next week to join, and they wanted a credit card AND a checking account number. Thats some bullshit there. I dot mind the credit card, but nobody is getting my routing number and checking account number to bill whatever the hell they want without my authorization. the credit card company will do chargebacks, if i didnt authorize a charge, or if they bill after I discontinue their services, but with my checking account info, i have no recourse.

The checking account info is a weird one indeed.

NP man. After starting 5 years ago on TRT and then finding help here from all of these caring guys; I felt reborn in a way.

Let’s get you going. I’m telling you, the guys here know there stuff and care for each other.

I’m not an old timer like guys that have been here for far longer than me, nor am I a steroid expert by any means, but I know quality people when I see them. All this crap over the past months has been so disruptive & divisive. I woke up from a long nap this afternoon and felt different, better. Fuck this bs!

[Proximal]

appreciate it .. lots of other gyms around here all closed down permanently . so we are getting tons of new members signing up daily.
the 24 hour fitness, gold gyms, etc.. all closed down. those members now coming to my gym.

however.. I'm bored. need a new challenge and something else to do besides personal training and gym ownership.
may end up selling the gym and moving and going to do something else, idk.

You’re still a young man GH, I get it. At 38, I said no more PT and back to school. You have to be true to your heart.

But, with that said, you have expertise that few have and by the way you describe your gym, I’m sure it’s exceptional. Don’t be too hasty with your decision.

[tarmyg]

What kind of stuff?

What systematic issues are they talking about?

Probably these ones:


External link: https://youtu.be/AGUwcs9qJXY

[tarmyg]

however.. I'm bored. need a new challenge and something else to do besides personal training and gym ownership.
may end up selling the gym and moving and going to do something else, idk.

Restless soul syndrome. I can 100% relate.

[C27H40O3]

whats your point ?

steroid user stats (umm plenty of guys on the police force use steroids by the way) ... like what the heck is your point in posting that ? I don't get it.

are you trying to take a dig against steroid users when your the one on a damn steroid forum ?

certainly not. I am just showing you that the media pushes propaganda involving all groups, including one you might identify with.

go find a politics and weak ass trump hating forum then

I'm completely confused as to what the point of your post is..
I'm supposed to blame a guy for getting shot in the back and murdered?

of course not. you wouldnt have the sense to affix blame where it belongs. you believe in blaming others for all the problems someone encounters in life.

To me, its clear. The guy resists lawful arrest. He assaults the two cops, and while doing so, robs the Tazer from one, runs away to further resist arrest, aims the stolen tazer at the pursuing cop, and actually shoots him with it, hitting him in the upper arm.

You are aware of all these facts, yet you dont assign any blame for the situation on him. You demonstrate a lack of critical thinking ability. Or alternately, you are just intentionally pushing the BLM agenda.

your on a steroid forum trying to say that steroid users are violent , when its well documented that cops kill thousands of people every year .

Again, you make false statements, and unsupported leaps of logic. Where was i trying to say that steroid users are violent? I just posted a link to an article, which you clearly didnt click on or read, that showed the result of research. You are free to counter it with studies that show the opposite is true. You never posted links showing that a significant number of cops are violent KKK members. You just make shit up.

Where is your documentation for that figure "thousands"? No available info on the internet anywhere backs that up, but we know your M.O. by now. Make unsupported outlandish claims, with numbers you pull out of your ass, and when you get called on it, you change the topic. The number is usually around one thousand. I think you are getting the figures confused with the number of people killed by doctors every year. That number is over 200,000.

Medical errors may be third leading cause of death in the U.S.



https://www.cnn.com/2016/05/03/healt...ath/index.html

where is the documentation that steroid abusing bodybuilders do that?
you've totally lost me as to what the F your point is or why your even on a steroid forum in the first place .

I answered that above. And i posted the original link, which you clearly didnt bother to read, or you would have answered your own question.

go shoot 2 grams of Tren , do some cardio, and bench 315 for reps .. then come back when you've become a real man and actually belong on a steroid forum instead of just stirring up shit politics .
you barely make it to the gym , you talk down on steroid use, you have no clue about diet ... why the heck are you on a bodybuilding steroid forum then ? !!!!!!!!!!!! ???

More bullshit accusations. Where do I "talk down" on steroid use ? More nonsense blatherings.

if I do an advanced search and type in the words "Trump" and type in your user name .. you come up number one . even though you haven't even been a member here very long . you have used the word "trump" more then anyone on this board and seems your mission here is simply political .

You cant talk too much about politics today without discussing the biggest threat to our system today. The orange con man.

I'd like to see you post in the diet and training section of the forums . you'd probably learn a lot more rather then trying to downplay and bash everyone on political topics. lets see what your macros and training looks like big man with such big political views always thinking he has all the right answers yet probably couldn't probably even walk around the block without passing out from exhaustion .

I dont bash anyone, i just call obvious bullshit when i read it. and, no offence, but it is usually posted by you.

Unlike you, I dont think i have all the right answers. I just have opinions on issues that I sometimes share and discuss. Isnt that the purpose of the "anabolic lounge" section?

[C27H40O3]

The checking account info is a weird one indeed.

NP man. After starting 5 years ago on TRT and then finding help here from all of these caring guys; I felt reborn in a way.

Let’s get you going. I’m telling you, the guys here know there stuff and care for each other.

I’m not an old timer like guys that have been here for far longer than me, nor am I a steroid expert by any means, but I know quality people when I see them. All this crap over the past months has been so disruptive & divisive. I woke up from a long nap this afternoon and felt different, better. Fuck this bs!

Every gym chain i tried has the same requirement. I dont see any reason other than one, and its the same one as the hundreds of bad reviews that I read online. They involve nightmare scenarios where they keep deducting money from your account after you inform them that you want to cancel your membership. They give all kinds of unnecessary hurdles that you have to jump over to cancel. They know you can avoid that with credit card chargebacks, but not checking account deductions.

I agree that there are great knowledgeable brothers on this site. They gave me better info than my TRT doctor. I ditched him and am looking for a new one now. I can disagree with folks here over political issues, but i still respect everyone for the knowledge and experience they have and the help they give.

[Gallowmere]

appreciate it .. lots of other gyms around here all closed down permanently . so we are getting tons of new members signing up daily.
the 24 hour fitness, gold gyms, etc.. all closed down. those members now coming to my gym.

however.. I'm bored. need a new challenge and something else to do besides personal training and gym ownership.
may end up selling the gym and moving and going to do something else, idk.

I figured that’s how things were going to go down. Crashes are how people get rich. The corp I work for was able to ride this very phenomenon in 2008. Several of the huge paving companies in the area went tits up due to their overheads, while we were still very small and manageable at the time. The bigger guys started shitting the bed, causing supply issues, so we decided to build our own asphalt plant.

[C27H40O3]

Then start working out and go on a diet you fat ass.

You sir are a hypocrite.

Stop worrying so much about others trying to empower themselves.
Try empowering yourself instead.

https://forums.steroid.com/new-membe...ew-member.html

"I am 55, about 225 lbs, mostly fat, and recently got put on testosterone Cypionate due to low numbers resulting from long term, about 7 years, opioid treatment for pain management. Symptoms were always Dragging ass, gained 25 pounds in last two years, tired all the time, low sex drive, lack of hard dick except maybe twice a week, etc...
Got bloodwork done, test number was 241 ng/DL and free T was 3.0.
My doc put me on 200mg test cyp 1x week along with 1mg Anastrozole three days after my injection.
I felt too much peaks and valleys effect, so I split it up to 0.5 ml test every three or four days. Doc says it’s ok. I am almost done with my second month. It seems like it had more beneficial effects the first few weeks. Maybe it’s in my head.
Anyway, I haven’t worked out in over 25 years, "

You know you lost the argument when you have to change the subject and resort to picking on a person’s health issues.

Way to go there, buddy. Very convincing argument in support of your position.


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[C27H40O3]

You said "There is no more serious issue than preventable death."

I pointed out that being obese is a death sentence and is avoidable.

You obviously are a hypocrite because you say one thing but practice another.

No you didnt, you didnt point out anything. you only called me a fat ass.


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