Is this irony?

[almostgone]

Are you suggesting that any fraud related to the absentee ballot signatures happened only on the Democratic side? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't both sides have equal opportunities to cheat or not cheat under the same rules?

Yes....equal opportunities. As I stated, claims were made in 2016 and 2020. That would implicate both parties

[Test Monsterone]

Yes....equal opportunities. As I stated, claims were made in 2016 and 2020. That would implicate both parties

As far as I remember, Hillary conceded and wished Mr. Trump luck with a phone call. Obama attended the inauguration. There were no 2 months of false accusations from Obama or Hillary. There were no 50+ lawsuits lost in court due to lack of sufficient evidence. There were no rallies held by Obama or Hillary that repeatedly made false claims about the election results and riled up the audience. There was no incitement by Obama or Hillary near the Capitol to "fight like hell" or "you won't have a country" while Congress was conducting business nearby. There were no hundreds of millions of dollars harvested off of the supporter's backs on a false premise about election results.

We can sit here all day and compare peanuts to mountains, but I guess if you can't see reality, you can't see reality. God bless, take care.

[almostgone]

As far as I remember, Hillary conceded and wished Mr. Trump luck with a phone call. Obama attended the inauguration. There were no 2 months of false accusations from Obama or Hillary. There were no 50+ lawsuits lost in court due to lack of sufficient evidence. There were no rallies held by Obama or Hillary that repeatedly made false claims about the election results and riled up the audience. There was no incitement by Obama or Hillary near the Capitol to "fight like hell" or "you won't have a country" while Congress was conducting business nearby. There were no hundreds of millions of dollars harvested off of the supporter's backs on a false premise about election results.

We can sit here all day and compare peanuts to mountains, but I guess if you can't see reality, you can't see reality. God bless, take care.

Nope.... no accusations of Russian collusion, no "basket of deplorables", comment...pfft

God bless you too, TM. No dislike on my part. I always try to live by the belief that "disagreement doesn't equate to dislike". I may not hit the mark 100% of the time, but I try.

[kelkel]

As far as I remember, Hillary conceded and wished Mr. Trump luck with a phone call. Obama attended the inauguration. There were no 2 months of false accusations from Obama or Hillary. There were no 50+ lawsuits lost in court due to lack of sufficient evidence. There were no rallies held by Obama or Hillary that repeatedly made false claims about the election results and riled up the audience. There was no incitement by Obama or Hillary near the Capitol to "fight like hell" or "you won't have a country" while Congress was conducting business nearby. There were no hundreds of millions of dollars harvested off of the supporter's backs on a false premise about election results.

We can sit here all day and compare peanuts to mountains, but I guess if you can't see reality, you can't see reality. God bless, take care.

You do remember that for the past 4 years he was continuously called an Illegitimate President. Over and over again, ad nauseam.
They continuously made false claims about russian collusion. Still are even after a 40 million dollar investigation.
Yet collusion with China is ignored by the liberal media.
Yes they did rile up people nationwide. Prime example Maxine Waters. Constantly saying he's illegitimate is riling up the base.
And Trump wished Biden well in a speech and letter.
All politicians harvest money.
Like Rahm Emanuel said, "never let a crisis go to waste."

[wango]

You do remember that for the past 4 years he was continuously called an Illegitimate President. Over and over again, ad nauseam.
They continuously made false claims about russian collusion. Still are even after a 40 million dollar investigation.
Yet collusion with China is ignored by the liberal media.
Yes they did rile up people nationwide. Prime example Maxine Waters. Constantly saying he's illegitimate is riling up the base.
And Trump wished Biden well in a speech and letter.
All politicians harvest money.
Like Rahm Emanuel said, "never let a crisis go to waste."

Pretty well read here and keep up with the times and honestly can’t think I’ve ever heard the comment about him being an illegitimate president ever.

Harvesting money for a legit cause is one thing, to support a lie is another.

This post election nonsense was once in a lifetime (or two) fiasco courtesy of Trump and to compare it to anything in the past is a stretch to say the least.

[wango]

What, Russia & Trump AGAIN???

[The Deadlifting Dog]

About the Russian collusion...

Trump was not exonerated by my report, Robert Mueller tells Congress

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49100778

It is kind of hard to find someone guilty when people perjure on their behalf.
(It's almost like they knew they would be pardoned. See: Alex van der Zwaan, George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, and maybe others of whom I don't know.)

In my opinion:
The right wing media spins it that they had nothing on Trump.
The Mueller report contradicts that statement.

I will admit they didn't have enough to convict him but I am not going to say there was nothing to it.

[Hughinn]

About the Russian collusion...

Trump was not exonerated by my report, Robert Mueller tells Congress

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49100778

It is kind of hard to find someone guilty when people perjure on their behalf.
(It's almost like they knew they would be pardoned. See: Alex van der Zwaan, George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, and maybe others of whom I don't know.)

In my opinion:
The right wing media spins it that they had nothing on Trump.
The Mueller report contradicts that statement.

I will admit they didn't have enough to convict him but I am not going to say there was nothing to it.

Look man, I mean this with respect and I honestly mean that.

You just keep overlooking a point I've tried to make awhile back.

I get the orange man bad shit that you just can't let go. OK. I get it, you hate the guy. Try to chill with orange man bad shit, just briefly.


But, I ask you to consider, that Donald Trump was a symptom of something far bigger than himself. He isn't the issue, he is a symptom of the issue. Half this country is pissed off. And Donald Trump was a result of that. He was and is not the problem. And it ain't going away. Its just now starting. Because our leaders have learned nothing from Donald Trump, and they're still not listening.

So now, I fear it gets worse.

Because it was the working class that sent Donald Trump to Washington. And they did it to stick a big throbbing middle finger in the faces of the establishment. They wanted to show the establishment that they'd been fucked enough. And now, it's time for a reckoning.

But they didn't listen. Just like you won't.

So now, we go farther.

And something I believe in, and I think many others do, is that once you've drawn a line in the sand, and it gets crossed, there is no question of how far you're willing to take it. The question is that do you have the stamina, will and fortitude to take it as far as it has to go?

The left has done this. I don't know if there's any going back ever again.

[wango]

But, I ask you to consider, that Donald Trump was a symptom of something far bigger than himself. He isn't the issue, he is a symptom of the issue . . . .

Because it was the working class that sent Donald Trump to Washington. And they did it to stick a big throbbing middle finger in the faces of the establishment. They wanted to show the establishment that they'd been fucked enough. And now, it's time for a reckoning.

Well this is a telling statement. IF that is really why people voted for Trump to be THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES; to make a gesture of saying f you, well that’s a pretty crappy way to vote. Mission accomplished though. However because he was elected for that reason, enough folks changed their mind and started thinking that simply wasn’t enough to keep someone in office for a second term. They decided and voted that something needed to actually be done besides some gesture of flipping off folks domestically and internationally.

[almostgone]

Shit....I've reached a conclusion.



We should be in Congress. At least we all communicate and have a dialogue.

Just a thought....

[wango]

Loved this ^^^ and was looking for other vids and stumbled upon this. BTW, it has nothing to do with this thread, but I almost cried laughing so hard . . .

[Capebuffalo]

You need a bra Prox. Nobody wants to see saggy titles.

[wango]

Shit....I've reached a conclusion.



We should be in Congress. At least we all communicate and have a dialogue.

Just a thought....

All things considered, in these times, hell yes. Definitely agreed.

[Fluidic Kimbo]

. . .

This would be 100% acceptable if they had bigger tits.

I lived in Asia for 2 years and the one thing you really begin to miss is ample-sized breasts. After about a year and a half of living among Asian women it's very very easy for a white woman to draw your attention merely with her bussom.

[wango]

You know, I liked the video a bit more because of the lyrics. Though I did love the dance move when they crunch their abs when they say the word diarrhea. That said, not everyone was born with big breasts, it’s the variety that makes the world a more interesting place imo.

[Capebuffalo]

Prox if I milked you would it be 1% or 2% ? Asking for a friend

[kelkel]

About the Russian collusion...

Trump was not exonerated by my report, Robert Mueller tells Congress

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49100778

It is kind of hard to find someone guilty when people perjure on their behalf.
(It's almost like they knew they would be pardoned. See: Alex van der Zwaan, George Papadopoulos, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, and maybe others of whom I don't know.)

In my opinion:
The right wing media spins it that they had nothing on Trump.
The Mueller report contradicts that statement.

I will admit they didn't have enough to convict him but I am not going to say there was nothing to it.

But that's how the law works in America. You're either guilty or you're not guilty. There is no gray area or in between. And Mueller, with his history, should know better than to leave something so important with such anbiguity. Yet, when we saw him testify before congress it was obvious his knowledge of the facts of the investigation were greatly lacking as he could not answer so many questions when asked.

[kelkel]

Pretty well read here and keep up with the times and honestly can’t think I’ve ever heard the comment about him being an illegitimate president ever.

Harvesting money for a legit cause is one thing, to support a lie is another.

This post election nonsense was once in a lifetime (or two) fiasco courtesy of Trump and to compare it to anything in the past is a stretch to say the least.

Hillary's been saying it since the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Hillary's been saying it since the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

Fully agree. She bitched and bitched.
Probably has a dart board with Trump’s face on it.

[kelkel]

Fully agree. She bitched and bitched.
Probably has a dart board with Trump’s face on it.

Made me laugh. The two of them should play yard darts together. The old ones that were basically weapons!

[wango]

Hillary's been saying it since the election.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...40f_story.html

Live in a liberal area with liberal news, just never heard him referred to that. Don’t doubt it’s been said, just never heard it said myself in four years.

[almostgone]

Made me laugh. The two of them should play yard darts together. The old ones that were basically weapons!

Old school lawn darts can be a real no shitter .. especially with sharp points and lighter fluid.

[Hughinn]

Well this is a telling statement. IF that is really why people voted for Trump to be THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES; to make a gesture of saying f you, well that’s a pretty crappy way to vote. Mission accomplished though. However because he was elected for that reason, enough folks changed their mind and started thinking that simply wasn’t enough to keep someone in office for a second term. They decided and voted that something needed to actually be done besides some gesture of flipping off folks domestically and internationally.

Look bro, think about it.

Healthy nations and people don't elect Donald Trump.

Desperate and angry ones do.

You may have successfully put Trump out of the Whitehouse for now.

But nobody in the ruling class sees the problem and has not addressed it. Instead the left has continued to insult and disrespect it they've told them to shit up and take it The root cause of trump, is now stronger, and even more pissed off.

They've been shit on for decades. And instead of admitting any fault, the ruling class insulted the working class. Called them deplorable racists and bigots. Told em to shut up and take it.

There will more Trump's.

Same with AOC:s and omar's. More of them coming too.

[Test Monsterone]

Look bro, think about it.

Healthy nations and people don't elect Donald Trump.

Desperate and angry ones do.

You may have successfully put Trump out of the Whitehouse for now.

But nobody in the ruling class sees the problem and has not addressed it. Instead the left has continued to insult and disrespect it they've told them to shit up and take it The root cause of trump, is now stronger, and even more pissed off.

They've been shit on for decades. And instead of admitting any fault, the ruling class insulted the working class. Called them deplorable racists and bigots. Told em to shut up and take it.

There will more Trump's.

Same with AOC:s and omar's. More of them coming too.

I agree with you that people are unhappy and that’s why Trump got voted in. But when has voting for a republican candidate ever benefitted blue collar folks? I have a list of things Trump has done to make life harder for working Americans. Republican politicians consistently fight to benefit the top 1%... I’m not making this up, this is common knowledge. Anyone who makes less than 200k a year gets nothing out of voting for Trump.

I know why they vote for trump, but it’s not because of economic policies.

[Gallowmere]

I agree with you that people are unhappy and that’s why Trump got voted in. But when has voting for a republican candidate ever benefitted blue collar folks? I have a list of things Trump has done to make life harder for working Americans. Republican politicians consistently fight to benefit the top 1%... I’m not making this up, this is common knowledge. Anyone who makes less than 200k a year gets nothing out of voting for Trump.

I know why they vote for trump, but it’s not because of economic policies.

Single issue voters are the primary thing keeping the GOP from going down in flames at this point. The really sad part is, most of those single issues are also based on assumptions with little bearing on reality. They’re not so much voting FOR the GOP as against:
“Dey wants to take our guns.”
“Dey wants to give free shit to teh welfare qwains.”
“Dey wants to gib muh jerb to teh Mexicans.”
“Dey wants teh Muslism to Jihadi teh constitution and something something shareyah law.”
“Dey wants tuh murder all teh baybeez.”

ETA: yes the mocking tone is 100% intended, and if you still believe any of the bullshit above, you’ve earned the mockery.

[Test Monsterone]

Single issue voters are the primary thing keeping the GOP from going down in flames at this point. The really sad part is, most of those single issues are also based on assumptions with little bearing on reality. They’re not so much voting FOR the GOP as against:
“Dey wants to take our guns.”
“Dey wants to give free shit to teh welfare qwains.”
“Dey wants to gib muh jerb to teh Mexicans.”
“Dey wants teh Muslism to Jihadi teh constitution and something something shareyah law.”
“Dey wants tuh murder all teh baybeez.”

ETA: yes the mocking tone is 100% intended, and if you still believe any of the bullshit above, you’ve earned the mockery.

Exactly, fear mongering and division. Republican politicians are experts at pinning groups of people against each other with often meaningless and false pretenses. They’re against funding anything that benefits the working class, that educates them, that elevates them. They want to keep them stupid and manipulate them through paranoia and outright lies. They turn poor people against the good people who want to help them and call them “elite.” Elite because they believe in science and the good of humanity.

It’s mind boggling to see people vote for someone who not only is nothing like them, but who doesn’t care about people like them, never wants to be seen with people like them, and would be embarrassed to be associated with people like them. Remember how Trump didn’t like the optics of the people storming the Capitol because they looked trashy/ low class? Now compare that with most democrats who came from blue collar homes that earned their positions, worked hard, and went to school. Somehow, these are the elites according to pubs.

THAT is the irony.

[Gallowmere]

Exactly, fear mongering and division. Republican politicians are experts at pinning groups of people against each other with often meaningless and false pretenses. They’re against funding anything that benefits the working class, that educates them, that elevates them. They want to keep them stupid and manipulate them through paranoia and outright lies. They turn poor people against the good people who want to help them and call them “elite.” Elite because they believe in science and the good of humanity.

It’s mind boggling to see people vote for someone who not only is nothing like them, but who doesn’t care about people like them, never wants to be seen with people like them, and would be embarrassed to be associated with people like them. Remember how Trump didn’t like the optics of the people storming the Capitol because they looked trashy/ low class? Now compare that with most democrats who came from blue collar homes that earned their positions, worked hard, and went to school. Somehow, these are the elites according to pubs.

THAT is the irony.

I grew up in a rather backwoods and extremely right leaning part of the country (rural Virginia in the 1980s). I’ll never forget the first words that knocked that bullshit out of my head, and it was said to me by someone from the area during the H.W. Bush v. Clinton election cycle:
“If these ignorant bastards only knew what the Republican initiatives have done to the land since the 1950s, they’d all be Democrats. They talk all of the time about hunting, living off the land, doing things their own way, but all they think about is the goddamned rifle, and not the part that the rifle is used for. Those things aren’t worth shit if there’s nothing left to kill.”

[Test Monsterone]

I grew up in a rather backwoods and extremely right leaning part of the country (rural Virginia in the 1980s). I’ll never forget the first words that knocked that bullshit out of my head, and it was said to me by someone from the area during the H.W. Bush v. Clinton election cycle:
“If these ignorant bastards only knew what the Republican initiatives have done to the land since the 1950s, they’d all be Democrats. They talk all of the time about hunting, living off the land, doing things their own way, but all they think about is the goddamned rifle, and not the part that the rifle is used for. Those things aren’t worth shit if there’s nothing left to kill.”

You’re right, that’s another dilemma. People want to go into the great outdoors to hunt and fish our streams, rivers, and lakes... but they vote for people who deregulate environmental protections that ultimately pollute and destroy nature for the sake of greed. ?? Beats me :-/

[Hughinn]

I agree with you that people are unhappy and that’s why Trump got voted in. But when has voting for a republican candidate ever benefitted blue collar folks? I have a list of things Trump has done to make life harder for working Americans. Republican politicians consistently fight to benefit the top 1%... I’m not making this up, this is common knowledge. Anyone who makes less than 200k a year gets nothing out of voting for Trump.

I know why they vote for trump, but it’s not because of economic policies.

You're right, or at least I believe you're right.

Donald Trump was not elected because he was a republican.

He was elected because he was not a politician. And he was not in the clique.

[Gallowmere]

You're right, or at least I believe you're right.

Donald Trump was not elected because he was a republican.

He was elected because he was not a politician. And he was not in the clique.

Except he really was, and anyone who believes otherwise hadn’t been paying attention for the previous three decades.
Don’t take this as me saying the oft redundant “all Trump voters are racist” nonsense, but the man’s candidacy was at joke status until he started the “fuck Mexicans” nonsense a couple of months into the primary campaigns. So yeah, there’s that. Pick a stupid hot topic fear, hammer the shit out of it, watch polls do weird shit.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

You're right, or at least I believe you're right.

Donald Trump was not elected because he was a republican.

He was elected because he was not a politician. And he was not in the clique.

Trump ran for presidency back in 2000.
In 1999, Trump filed an exploratory committee to seek the nomination of the Reform Party for the 2000 presidential election.


It can be debated that he has had political ambitions since 1987.
In 1987, Trump placed full-page advertisements in three major newspapers, proclaiming "America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves."[2] The advertisements also advocated for "reducing the budget deficit, working for peace in Central America, and speeding up nuclear disarmament negotiations with the Soviet Union".[3] DCCC chair Rep. Beryl Anthony Jr. told The New York Times that "the message Trump has been preaching is a Democratic message." Asked whether rumors of a presidential candidacy were true, Trump denied being a candidate, but said, "I believe that if I did run for President, I'd win."[3] According to a Gallup poll in December 1988, Trump was the tenth most admired man in America.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...f_Donald_Trump


You have been conned if you believe he isn't a politician.
You have been conned if you believe he isn't part of the "elite".


Fun fact: Trump's political party affiliation has changed numerous times. He registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987, switched to the Reform Party in 1999, the Democratic Party in 2001, and back to the Republican Party in 2009.

[Hughinn]

Trump ran for presidency back in 2000.
In 1999, Trump filed an exploratory committee to seek the nomination of the Reform Party for the 2000 presidential election.


It can be debated that he has had political ambitions since 1987.
In 1987, Trump placed full-page advertisements in three major newspapers, proclaiming "America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves."[2] The advertisements also advocated for "reducing the budget deficit, working for peace in Central America, and speeding up nuclear disarmament negotiations with the Soviet Union".[3] DCCC chair Rep. Beryl Anthony Jr. told The New York Times that "the message Trump has been preaching is a Democratic message." Asked whether rumors of a presidential candidacy were true, Trump denied being a candidate, but said, "I believe that if I did run for President, I'd win."[3] According to a Gallup poll in December 1988, Trump was the tenth most admired man in America.[4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politi...f_Donald_Trump


You have been conned if you believe he isn't a politician.
You have been conned if you believe he isn't part of the "elite".

None of that changes the fact that he was and is an outsider to the establishment.

You might want to tone down the orange man bad' gimmick. It's not productive to the issue at this point

We're discussing why he was elected. But like any leftist, it always goes back to the orange man bad' mantra.

Joe biden is just as corrupt. Just as loathing and every bit of a scoundrel. He's just in the clique.

People are sick of the clique.

[Hughinn]

Except he really was, and anyone who believes otherwise hadn’t been paying attention for the previous three decades.
Don’t take this as me saying the oft redundant “all Trump voters are racist” nonsense, but the man’s candidacy was at joke status until he started the “fuck Mexicans” nonsense a couple of months into the primary campaigns. So yeah, there’s that. Pick a stupid hot topic fear, hammer the shit out of it, watch polls do weird shit.

The point of this is, Donald Trump rode a wave of resentment for the establishment clique. He didn't create the wave. The establishment themselves caused it. Trump was the result. And just the first.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

None of that changes the fact that he was and is an outsider to the establishment.

You might want to time down the orange man bad' gimmick.

We're discussing why he was elected. But like any leftist, it always goes back to the orange man bad' mantra.

Joe biden is just as corrupt. Just as loathing and every bit of a scoundrel. He's just in the clique.

People are sick if the clique.

What???

This was all so civil until now.

You said he wasn't a politician.
I said he ran for president 21 years ago.

You play the Orange Man bad card.

I simply pointed out he has been a politician for far longer than you realize.
He ran for goddamn president 21 years ago...
How is that not being a politician???
Because he lost???
So is he not a politician now because he lost?
Are you only a politician if you win??

If a hunter comes back without a buck is he not a hunter?

seriously... I wasn't attacking...

[Hughinn]

What???

This was all so civil until now.

You said he wasn't a politician.
I said he ran for president 21 years ago.

You play the Orange Man bad card.

I simply pointed out he has been a politician for far longer than you realize.
He ran for goddamn president 21 years ago...
How is that not being a politician???
Because he lost???
So is he not a politician now because he lost?
Are you only a politician if you win??

If a hunter comes back without a buck are they not a hunter?

seriously... I wasn't attacking...

Ok, then he was and is not perceived as a politician.

And he certainly has not been writing policy for the past 50 years. Won lost whatever. He was never an en elected official until now is the point. Holding an elected office is sort of a requirement to qualify as being a politician ain't it?

My point is that he's the outsider. And that's what garnered him alot of support

[The Deadlifting Dog]

OK...

I agree he hasn't been an elected official before.
I agree he hasn't been writing the policy before.

But has has been a "billionaire" for a long time.
IMO: He has had connections at every level in the elite stratosphere for a long time.

You may think he didn't know and hang with the "elites".
But IMO he was far more connected and thus influential then you realize.

I fully agree that he was perceived as an outsider.
I would wager money that well over 50% of his followers never knew he ran for president in 2000 or that he was a registered democrat.
Point being... just because people viewed him as an outsider doesn't mean he was.

Let's not forget that all those Hollywood elites that you detest... He was one of them. He made millions and millions off of the Apprentice.


But yes: I fully agree that he got elected because he was an "outsider".


Side note: IMO... The rich and politicians are almost always intertwined. They run in the same clique. Politicians can't get elected without money. So even if the rich don't sign the laws... they do help write them.

For some fun reading on Trump and Giuliani:
In 1988, for example, Giuliani and Trump were dubbed by New York as two of the 20 most important New Yorkers. They gathered for a gala at the Cloud Club atop the Chrysler Building with some of the rest of the picks and a diverse crowd of VIPs including Koch, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Rupert Murdoch, Malcolm Forbes, Arianna Huffington and Gay Talese.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...endship-229857

[Hughinn]

OK...

I agree he hasn't been an elected official before.
I agree he hasn't been writing the policy before.

But has has been a "billionaire" for a long time.
IMO: He has had connections at every level in the elite stratosphere for a long time.

You may think he didn't know and hang with the "elites".
But IMO he was far more connected and thus influential then you realize.

I fully agree that he was perceived as an outsider.
I would wager money that well over 50% of his followers never knew he ran for president in 2000 or that he was a registered democrat.
Point being... just because people viewed him as an outsider doesn't mean he was.

Let's not forget that all those Hollywood elites that you detest... He was one of them. He made millions and millions off of the Apprentice.


But yes: I fully agree that he got elected because he was an "outsider".

We do agree on some things. See that.

I just feel like the point of why Donald Trump was elected is overlooked by our leaders.

It's a lesson they could learn from. But it doesn't look like they will.

[Test Monsterone]

Even DJT and JB seemed to have a moment...

"The president wrote a very generous letter," Biden said. "Because it was private, I won't talk about it until I talk to him. But it was generous."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-tr...144408975.html

Cue Whitesnake.... is this love that I’m feeling?

[Gallowmere]

Shit, just because of the Anabolic Steroid Control Act, I have a special place of hatred in my heart for Biden anyway, so don’t assume that I have any love for his jackal ass.
I personally think they’re both just slightly different hues of piss.

[wango]

Look bro, think about it.

Healthy nations and people don't elect Donald Trump.

Desperate and angry ones do.

You may have successfully put Trump out of the Whitehouse for now.

But nobody in the ruling class sees the problem and has not addressed it. Instead the left has continued to insult and disrespect it they've told them to shit up and take it The root cause of trump, is now stronger, and even more pissed off.

They've been shit on for decades. And instead of admitting any fault, the ruling class insulted the working class. Called them deplorable racists and bigots. Told em to shut up and take it.

There will more Trump's.

Same with AOC:s and omar's. More of them coming too.

I have absolutely nothing against what you are saying and what I quoted you on prior was a real cool statement. The only thing I don’t agree with is the “ruling class” making generalized statements, however he have discussed that before.

I’m simply stating, the wrong guy got voted in & showed that by not being able to get re-elected. I voted for him in 2016 for not to send an f-you to anyone, but because I thought he could get the job done. However, I personally saw less of that and more f-you's.