Shit. We lose another one.......

[almostgone]

https://barbend.com/bodybuilder-geor...portedly-dead/

[Mooseman33]

industry taking a beating this year. Changes are coming.

[< <Samson> >]

Thank u for the post

Never heard of em,


But, 37 < fuck :/

RiP

[BG]

Not a very healthy sport. Im down to 170lbs from 220, exactly where I started , need to get my hip and both shoulders fully replaced. Cant get it done because my bloodwork is bad, cant work, using a walker around my house at 47 years old, going to see a hematologist on Wed and pray its not cancer. Bb'ing is a waste of health, life and money. Worst decision I ever made, juicing only destroys your body. Paying dearly for it now.

[kelkel]

Damn BG. Very sorry to hear all this.

[kelkel]

https://barbend.com/bodybuilder-geor...portedly-dead/

Keep in mind people of all ages and sports die. It's not always related to BB'ing. I understand the possibility that it is for sure, but until we know the coroners report we're just guessing.

[< <Samson> >]

Well, no turning back now

According to my neurosurgical team, it’d be damn near impossible for me to bounce back physically the way I have if I wasn’t in this physical condition - also, new research shows a lot of positive for the brain elasticity & neurological regrowth from intense exercise

Let alone, I’d never be able to make the gains I have after my brain hemorrhaged


Life is a slippery slope as soon as I/we wake up in the morning


I “try” to stay safer, that’s for sure


Without roids/drugs/meds I wouldn’t have ever lived - it all pushed me to levels I’d never be able to naturally achieve

[almostgone]

Keep in mind people of all ages and sports die. It's not always related to BB'ing. I understand the possibility that it is for sure, but until we know the coroners report we're just guessing.

Totally agree. The loss at that age for whatever reason is just sad.

[BG]

Damn BG. Very sorry to hear all this.

Thanks buddy......all my doing. We reap what we sow.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Thoughts and prayers BG. Don’t beat yourself up over those choices, as someone who went through it and was probably in a mental state similar to yours at one point (second guessing all of my choices) the fact is everything around us can do us harm, give us cancer or end our lives early.

From driving in a car to the foods we eat, the air we breath and the families we were born into. As I’ve said, be graceful with yourself.

It’s something we’ve also chosen. Look at poor Ronnie now. I’m nowhere to that degree, but my hands and toes are always numb, my shoulders take turns waking me up every night, I wonder if the shit I took in pursuit of my physique caused my cancer and there’s always something aching or throbbing and yet I continue to go in there and get after it. BBing also gives me a cathartic release, makes me feel empowered and gives me a channel to place all of this misspent energy that dances around between my ears.

If it ain’t one thing, it’ll be another.

Stay healthy brother, praying for you.

[XnavyHMCS]

Not a very healthy sport. Im down to 170lbs from 220, exactly where I started , need to get my hip and both shoulders fully replaced. Cant get it done because my bloodwork is bad, cant work, using a walker around my house at 47 years old, going to see a hematologist on Wed and pray its not cancer. Bb'ing is a waste of health, life and money. Worst decision I ever made, juicing only destroys your body. Paying dearly for it now.

BG,

First off; best of luck to you / best of health.

THIS post gents, sounds like a wake-up-call to all of us... (As I load a syringe for the day's injection)

Certainly, every body reacts differently to AAS. Therefore, adverse / long-term adverse effects will differ from user to user...

I guess it is a roll of the dice...

AG, we at the forum have our fingers crossed for your testing, diagnosis and recovery.

[XnavyHMCS]

Keep in mind people of all ages and sports die. It's not always related to BB'ing. I understand the possibility that it is for sure, but until we know the coroners report we're just guessing.

kelkel is on point here.

[XnavyHMCS]

Well, no turning back now

According to my neurosurgical team, it’d be damn near impossible for me to bounce back physically the way I have if I wasn’t in this physical condition - also, new research shows a lot of positive for the brain elasticity & neurological regrowth from intense exercise

Let alone, I’d never be able to make the gains I have after my brain hemorrhaged


Life is a slippery slope as soon as I/we wake up in the morning


I “try” to stay safer, that’s for sure


Without roids/drugs/meds I wouldn’t have ever lived - it all pushed me to levels I’d never be able to naturally achieve

Gospel truth here, also...

Responses to the thread are running the gamut...

[Test Monsterone]

I don’t even consider professional bbing a sport anymore. In almost every sport athletes are at their peak physical condition to compete, whereas in bodybuilding a strong wind could take them out on the day of the show.

I think even us guys that don’t compete have a ton of injuries. Thankfully we don’t have to push through the injury if we don’t want to. The best thing I ever did was start my own home gym. There are days when I just do band exercises and I don’t have anyone to impress.

BG, look at Jose Raymond - got both hips replaced and he can squat 500+ again. It’s not over, you’re still young. If you take it a little easier on your body going forward you will be able to improve greatly. Wish you all the best.

[< <Samson> >]

Yeah,

Don’t wanna drop that one all over the board - but, bodybuilding is no fucking sport. It’s always been a joke to me - how’s this “sport” scored?

Whichever one drops dead 1st wins

It’s a fad & is all for vanity. . . Not all that much different than a girl with a fake giant ass, tits or lips

Of course it’s hard work - but, it’s not to achieve a true purpose. Recovery from unnecessary plastic surgery isn’t much easier.


I know that me doing this is selfish af & the real #1 reason is to stand out - one way or another

Prob is, it works very well. . . Women/girls/whoever wants to see someone jacked & lean af - me being like this has been my #1 conversation starter. . . Just because it’s not normal < and, I feel like I don’t even look that insane. . . But, I think my look is kinda most sought after - since, it actually appears normalish & super healthy < fuck no! I’m on roids that are destroying my organs.

But, it is a tad past that - for me at least. I came in with low test, and all the sudden I feel great & wake up looking/feeling like a whole different person. This person actually gets shit done & people actually take seriously all the sudden

Steroids & lifting are my lifestyle now - that so far I have been so fortunate to be able to hold onto.

[charger69]

I look at things differently. I had cancer. I by no way relate it to BB. My whole family had it and my mother and sister died from it. I was not surprised when I got it.
Things happen all the time to people that don’t take AAS. I am by no means promoting this lifestyle but it has been my selection. Yes, these are powerful drugs and can easily be abused.
My body and health was already breaking down before I started and it sort of gave me life again. NOTE: I started AAS at 46.
I know that my cycles are aggressive and I still compete. Competing makes me feel complete. I do not spend thousands of $ for a plastic trophy, I do it for me.
I understand BG and The others and maybe I would have a different opinion in their shoes. I do feel that I was in a similar situation with cancer. I just wanted to make what I thought may be my last competition.
I am probably thinking the wrong way, but I don’t regret what I vhave done …. Except the stupid things…. I am presently getting my heart checked because of atrial fibrillation. This was probably caused by the stimulants (T3, clen , ephedrine, and caffeine). I am trying to get the Dr to take me off the meds. There has been no signs in the last 2 years. I think it was an isolated case, it was noted 4 weeks out from a show and large amounts of stimulants.

In the end , I think things through and weigh the risks and I do not regret the decisión. I am responsible for my own actions and if it turns out negative, I knew the risk and need to deal with any negative consequences. I hope that I do not, but I will deal with it when it comes. I am dealing with old age as it is…. Arthritis in the knees, pulled groin, etc.


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[XnavyHMCS]

We are survivors...!!! Every last one of us; in one way or another.

This forum is full of guys who have withstood the flames, and emerged on the other side, a better man (or woman).

Injuries, and growing old, is a bitch. I believe that I can speak for the lot of us; I (we) play "hide and go seek" with injuries; training around what ails us, at the moment...

But through it all, we persevere...

[BG]

Means alot brother thank you.

Not looking for sympathy I just want you guys to know, we pay for everything in the end, everything.

Thoughts and prayers BG. Don’t beat yourself up over those choices, as someone who went through it and was probably in a mental state similar to yours at one point (second guessing all of my choices) the fact is everything around us can do us harm, give us cancer or end our lives early.

From driving in a car to the foods we eat, the air we breath and the families we were born into. As I’ve said, be graceful with yourself.

It’s something we’ve also chosen. Look at poor Ronnie now. I’m nowhere to that degree, but my hands and toes are always numb, my shoulders take turns waking me up every night, I wonder if the shit I took in pursuit of my physique caused my cancer and there’s always something aching or throbbing and yet I continue to go in there and get after it. BBing also gives me a cathartic release, makes me feel empowered and gives me a channel to place all of this misspent energy that dances around between my ears.

If it ain’t one thing, it’ll be another.

Stay healthy brother, praying for you.

[wango]

Not a very healthy sport. Im down to 170lbs from 220, exactly where I started , need to get my hip and both shoulders fully replaced. Cant get it done because my bloodwork is bad, cant work, using a walker around my house at 47 years old, going to see a hematologist on Wed and pray its not cancer. Bb'ing is a waste of health, life and money. Worst decision I ever made, juicing only destroys your body. Paying dearly for it now.

Good luck BG. Similar situation with my hip at 49, then the other at 55. I waited till I could barely walk or sleep through the pain. Work almost became impossible. Trust me, after it’s replaced you will have a big resurgence and will want to get back to the gym. You can workout around the shoulders & still get in decent workouts, though IF doing physical labor for a living, that will be tough.

My opinion is once you start doing anything that throws your life out of balance, you better be careful cause it’s likely going to be a detriment. Good luck with the hematologist & prayers regarding you fear of possible cancer.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Means alot brother thank you.

Not looking for sympathy I just want you guys to know, we pay for everything in the end, everything.

In NO way did I think you were looking for sympathy…

We know we don’t give that anyways

Appreciate you sharing, reminds me I’m human and I’m not alone. Same goes for everyone that shares things here. That’s what turns a forum into a community <3

[GirlyGymRat]

Means alot brother thank you.

Not looking for sympathy I just want you guys to know, we pay for everything in the end, everything.

BG

We get to pick our poison. There’s a discomfort of being unmotivated, out of shape and overweight. There’s a discomfort of being motivated, working hard and playing even harder. We choose to be a spectator or to participate.

I’ve recently acknowledged different pain thresholds. Having a high threshold of pain is a curse. We push thru pain because we can and then we incur more injuries. I believe BB have high tolerance for pain.

An appreciation of our choices comes later, when body starts to breaks down from lack of use or use. So we have our surgeries and jump right back in the game. Wishing you well on the next part of your journey. Praying for full recovery and no cancer!

[charger69]

BG

We get to pick our poison. There’s a discomfort of being unmotivated, out of shape and overweight. There’s a discomfort of being motivated, working hard and playing even harder. We choose to be a spectator or to participate.

I’ve recently acknowledged different pain thresholds. Having a high threshold of pain is a curse. We push thru pain because we can and then we incur more injuries. I believe BB have high tolerance for pain.

An appreciation of our choices comes later, when body starts to breaks down from lack of use or use. So we have our surgeries and jump right back in the game. Wishing you well on the next part of your journey. Praying for full recovery and no cancer!

Well said.
I used to tell myself that pain was a figment of our imagination and went through painful leg workouts. Once the Dr saw what was causing the pain, I was told that “we need to operate on your back, NOW”.


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[BG]

Good luck BG. Similar situation with my hip at 49, then the other at 55. I waited till I could barely walk or sleep through the pain. Work almost became impossible. Trust me, after it’s replaced you will have a big resurgence and will want to get back to the gym. You can workout around the shoulders & still get in decent workouts, though IF doing physical labor for a living, that will be tough.

My opinion is once you start doing anything that throws your life out of balance, you better be careful cause it’s likely going to be a detriment. Good luck with the hematologist & prayers regarding you fear of possible cancer.

Thanks I appreciate it.

[Honkey_Kong]

Is there anyone who does this and isn't in a lot of pain by the time they reach 40?

[< <Samson> >]

Is there anyone who does this and isn't in a lot of pain by the time they reach 40?

Thank you for asking

I was gonna post this on my own, just didn’t see the point


My close friend who OD’d 3 years ago was 47 - 100% & made me look flabby, juiced since he was 16 - and, on tren E for a year+ right up until his passing

If it wasn’t 2 for Fentanyl loaded 30’s he’d still be outdoing me in every which way possible @ 50

[GirlyGymRat]

Well said.
I used to tell myself that pain was a figment of our imagination and went through painful leg workouts. Once the Dr saw what was causing the pain, I was told that “we need to operate on your back, NOW”.


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Exactly

Not always these