What is the harm that testosterone impacts on cholesterol?

[Davi Meireles]

Testosterone in the testicles is generated from the cholesterol molecule, so logically, cholesterol must increase with the use of testosterone.


How do you keep cholesterol under control, in addition to pre-cycle and mid-cycle exams?

[Cylon357]

Testosterone in the testicles is generated from the cholesterol molecule, so logically, cholesterol must increase with the use of testosterone.


How do you keep cholesterol under control, in addition to pre-cycle and mid-cycle exams?

The first part is backwards. Test doesn't generate cholesterol in natty individuals. Test production is stimulated in part by the presence of cholesterol. But Test does not create cholesterol.

[Davi Meireles]

The first part is backwards. Test doesn't generate cholesterol in natty individuals. Test production is stimulated in part by the presence of cholesterol. But Test does not create cholesterol.

Hello Cylon, you who understand a lot about AAS, a dosage of 400-600mg does not have an impact on the increase in LDL cholesterol since it has a great influence on lipid metabolism? From what I was studying, I read, if I'm not mistaken, that Leydig cells form testosterone from cholesterol.


Of course, a good diet is essential to control cholesterol, but guys like me eat a lot of pork and beef.

[Honkey_Kong]

Hello Cylon, you who understand a lot about AAS, a dosage of 400-600mg does not have an impact on the increase in LDL cholesterol since it has a great influence on lipid metabolism? From what I was studying, I read, if I'm not mistaken, that Leydig cells form testosterone from cholesterol.


Of course, a good diet is essential to control cholesterol, but guys like me eat a lot of pork and beef.

Here's some comparable fat amounts. Mind you saturated fats are the kind known for raising LDL. And unsaturated fats can help raise HDL:


A 84g serving of pork loin roast contains 0 carbs and 7.5 grams of fat. Of those 7.5 grams, 2.4 are saturated, .1g are trans, .8 are polyunsaturated and 3g are monounsaturated.

An 84g ribeye steak contains 0 carbs and 16.2g of fat. Of those 16.2 grams 7.2 are saturated, 7.8g are monounsaturated and .8g are polyunsaturated.

And compare that to chicken breast. 86 g of chicken breast has 3.6 grams of fat and of those, .9 gram is saturated .7g are polyunsaturated and 1.1g are monounsaturated.

As you can see pork loin roast has considerably fewer grams of saturated and trans fats than a ribeye steak, but also considerably more than a comparable portion of baked, skinless chicken breast. But chicken breast also has fewer grams of unsaturated fats than either pork loin roast or ribeye steak. Saturated and trans fats are known to raise LDL while unsaturated fats are known to raise HDL.

It's a tradeoff as to which meats have more of the fats you need for your diet model. What I would recommend as a diet plan is check your cholesterol levels while eating what you currently eat and then over time replace one meat with another for your weekly diet and then test it again. Habits are built over time and completely giving up steak and pork for chicken probably isn't something you're going to stick to where as replacing one steak dinner in a week with a chicken would be some something you can sustain over a long period of time. And anything in the right direction you can maintain will generate long-term results that you like. Whether that be gains in your weight or a better cholesterol profile in your bloodwork.



sources:
https://www.nutritionix.com/food/pork-loin-roast/oz
https://www.nutritionix.com/food/ribeye-steak/oz
https://www.nutritionix.com/food/baked-chicken-breast

[Cylon357]

Hello Cylon, you who understand a lot about AAS, a dosage of 400-600mg does not have an impact on the increase in LDL cholesterol since it has a great influence on lipid metabolism? From what I was studying, I read, if I'm not mistaken, that Leydig cells form testosterone from cholesterol.


Of course, a good diet is essential to control cholesterol, but guys like me eat a lot of pork and beef.

I think I misunderstood your first post. I thought you were saying that testosterone makes cholesterol. Please disregard, I have a head cold that is clouding my judgment.

[wango]

Davi, there is no research that definitely finds that an increase in testosterone will negatively (or positively) effect HDL/LDL levels.

On the other hand, decreasing estrogen levels has been shown to decrease HDL’s & increase LDL’s.

It’s best to simply monitor how it effects you personally.

In the meantime, watch your saturated fat intake, (particularly if your blood work indicates poor lipid results). There is an abundance of great protein sources out there that does not include pork/beef. Expand your palate/taste buds if you can.

[Davi Meireles]

I think I misunderstood your first post. I thought you were saying that testosterone makes cholesterol. Please disregard, I have a head cold that is clouding my judgment.

Thanks ! Testosterone only amplifies the ability to increase LDl due to poor nutrition, doesn't it. So if I continue eating the types of meat I consume, I could be fucking with my lipid profiles without even knowing.

[Davi Meireles]

Davi, there is no research that definitely finds that an increase in testosterone will negatively (or positively) effect HDL/LDL levels.

On the other hand, decreasing estrogen levels has been shown to decrease HDL’s & increase LDL’s.

It’s best to simply monitor how it effects you personally.

In the meantime, watch your saturated fat intake, (particularly if your blood work indicates poor lipid results). There is an abundance of great protein sources out there that does not include pork/beef. Expand your palate/taste buds if you can.

Good to know, dietary re-education that will prevent damage to cholesterol.

[Davi Meireles]

Here's some comparable fat amounts. Mind you saturated fats are the kind known for raising LDL. And unsaturated fats can help raise HDL:


A 84g serving of pork loin roast contains 0 carbs and 7.5 grams of fat. Of those 7.5 grams, 2.4 are saturated, .1g are trans, .8 are polyunsaturated and 3g are monounsaturated.

An 84g ribeye steak contains 0 carbs and 16.2g of fat. Of those 16.2 grams 7.2 are saturated, 7.8g are monounsaturated and .8g are polyunsaturated.

And compare that to chicken breast. 86 g of chicken breast has 3.6 grams of fat and of those, .9 gram is saturated .7g are polyunsaturated and 1.1g are monounsaturated.

As you can see pork loin roast has considerably fewer grams of saturated and trans fats than a ribeye steak, but also considerably more than a comparable portion of baked, skinless chicken breast. But chicken breast also has fewer grams of unsaturated fats than either pork loin roast or ribeye steak. Saturated and trans fats are known to raise LDL while unsaturated fats are known to raise HDL.

It's a tradeoff as to which meats have more of the fats you need for your diet model. What I would recommend as a diet plan is check your cholesterol levels while eating what you currently eat and then over time replace one meat with another for your weekly diet and then test it again. Habits are built over time and completely giving up steak and pork for chicken probably isn't something you're going to stick to where as replacing one steak dinner in a week with a chicken would be some something you can sustain over a long period of time. And anything in the right direction you can maintain will generate long-term results that you like. Whether that be gains in your weight or a better cholesterol profile in your bloodwork.



sources:
https://www.nutritionix.com/food/pork-loin-roast/oz
https://www.nutritionix.com/food/ribeye-steak/oz
https://www.nutritionix.com/food/baked-chicken-breast

In my personal studies, I heard a lot of good things about vitamin E for controlling cholesterol during the use of testosterone . I was reading that it doesn't let fatty plaques stick to the arteries atherosclerosis "


Do you know anything about this?

[Honkey_Kong]

In my personal studies, I heard a lot of good things about vitamin E for controlling cholesterol during the use of testosterone . I was reading that it doesn't let fatty plaques stick to the arteries atherosclerosis "


Do you know anything about this?

I don't know about vitamin E helping with testosterone specifically, but I've read it helps the arterial walls. Another thing I've been reading about that might be of interest is that vitamin E helps prevent lipid peroxidation which can help prevent cellular death.

[Davi Meireles]

I don't know about vitamin E helping with testosterone specifically, but I've read it helps the arterial walls. Another thing I've been reading about that might be of interest is that vitamin E helps prevent lipid peroxidation which can help prevent cellular death.

Well from my final conclusion in the literature, vitamin E does not directly combat cholesterol, but it has antioxidant properties, in addition to cleaning the arteries, it also helps the immune system against damage from free radicals, including those associated with cholesterol oxidation....

I think that eating nuts, avocado, spinach and olive oil daily already provides a good amount of vitamin E.

From what I saw, just because it acts directly to prevent the accumulation of fat in the arteries, it is a good point to consume foods rich in vitamin E or even take additional supplementation of it in capsules.

[wango]

I think that eating nuts, avocado, spinach and olive oil daily already provides a good amount of vitamin E.

From what I saw, just because it acts directly to prevent the accumulation of fat in the arteries, it is a good point to consume foods rich in vitamin E or even take additional supplementation of it in capsules.

If this really were the case, you would be seeing every cardiologist/doctor routinely prescribe it and the pharmaceutical companies would have taken full advantage.

Like all claims about extra vitamin supplementation, don’t believe the hype.

What’s your blood lipid levels, what’s your family history regarding cardiovascular related issues & what’s your blood pressure? With the added weight of excessive muscle & bulk you undoubtedly are listed as overweight, which already is one big strike against your cardiovascular health.

[AR's King Silabolin]

There is no use in keeping steroid caused cholestrol in check.
Cholestrol is like firemen. They are not dangerous. Its often seen at the accident, but they do not cause the accident. Like water also. Too much water do not sink your boat.
Oxidiced cholestrol is dangerous. And VSLDL.
U get the latter from sugar and most plant oils (not oliven), manmaid fat.
Actually some of the finest experts on the topics state that those with higher cholestrol level live longer.
But it cant be VSLDL.
Extra test does not elevate VSLDL.

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[AR's King Silabolin]

Damned my new policy works. Always tried to push hard. What your doing is strengthening the stuff that keeps muscles from growing.
Now i have ca 30 to 50% in the tank when i quit the sets.
Time to set an ATH this christmas in the middle of the cycle.
Looks like primo first, then tren .
Ofcourse test all the way.

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