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    A Chip ID That's Only Skin-Deep

    Biotech: Firm plans to sell implantable devices that can store a variety of data about you.

    By DAVID STREITFELD, Times Staff Writer


    By DAVID STREITFELD -- A Florida company is poised to become the first to sell microchips designed to be implanted into human beings, an achievement that opens the door to new systems of medical monitoring and ID screening.

    Implantable chips have long been discussed by technologists and denounced by those who object on religious grounds or fear their use by a totalitarian state. But the company that did the test, Applied Digital Solutions of Palm Beach, said the specter of terrorism is shifting attitudes. The direct union of man and computer is no longer dismissed out of hand.

    "The bottom line is, when people are trying to regain their peace of mind, they're more open to new approaches," said Keith Bolton, Applied Digital's chief technology officer.

    Applied Digital, which had revenue of $165 million last year, has made its mark by selling electronic chips that help farmers keep tabs on the health and safety of their cows and other livestock. The company also makes a monitoring bracelet for Alzheimer patients, so that families can use global positioning satellite systems to help find loved ones who might have wandered off.

    Now the company sees a market among those who have artificial organs and limbs. These folks will have up to 60 words of relevant medical information implanted on chips. If the patients are brought unconscious into an emergency room, technicians equipped with special scanners will easily decipher the body's internal topography.

    The chips would need approval from the Food and Drug Administration, which Applied Digital said it expects to receive by midyear. The company said it already has secured permission from the Federal Communications Commission--necessary because the chips use radio frequencies.

    Regulatory approval is not necessary overseas, however. Applied Digital expects to be selling chips in South America in about 90 days. One potential market is kidnap targets, who could use these chips in combination with global positioning devices.

    Other potential applications would put the chips in the role of an ultimate ID, capable of performing many of the roles that are performed by keys and ATM cards.

    "I'd be shocked if within 10 years you couldn't get a chip implanted that would unlock your house, start your car and give you money," said Chris Hables Gray, an associate professor of computer science at the University of Great Falls in Montana and author of "The Cyborg Citizen."

    English cyberneticist Kevin Warwick won considerable notoriety three years ago by implanting an electronic transmitter above his left elbow. The implant opened doors and switched on lights at his British University of Reading offices. He now is working on experiments in which his nervous system is linked with a computer.

    If Warwick is the equivalent of the mad genius who injects himself with a new vaccine to see whether it works, the Applied Digital volunteer, 55-year-old New Jersey surgeon Richard Seelig, sees himself as simply a consultant thrust by events into an unexpected role.

    Seelig had been working with Applied Digital since early this year. He expected to do a traditional scientific study, calling for volunteers who wanted to test out the role of chip implants. Then came the terrorist attacks Sept. 11. Five days later, Seelig injected himself with the chips.

    "I was so compelled by what had happened," he said in a phone interview. "One of the potential applications suddenly jumped out--the ability to have a secure form of identification--and I felt I had to take the next step."

    So he injected one chip into his left forearm; the other went in his right leg, next to his artificial hip. Each could hold several sentences of information, although at the moment they just contain serial numbers.

    "There's no deformity of the skin," Seelig said. "I feel just the same as I did before."

    The chips that will be marketed next year are not true tracking devices. For one thing, they have no internal power source. Their data can't be read without a scanner.

    The next generation of body chips, which transmits signals from a distance, is still several years away. At the moment, this kind of tracking device would have to be about 1 inch by 1 inch, raising the likelihood of a rather unsightly bulge.

    Applied Digital has a market value of 95 million. Its shares closed unchanged Tuesday at 38 cents on Nasdaq.

    No one interviewed Tuesday questioned that Applied Digital had done what it said it did, but not everyone thought there would be a huge market.

    "It's a glorified bar code, and there are not a lot of people who are going to want it," said Michael Nova, the founder of Graviton, a La Jolla company developing wireless machine-to-machine communication systems. Using such a chip as a built-in credit card, Nova said, would require a great deal of work.

    "Stores would have to get the right software; credit card companies would have to want to do it," Nova said. "At the moment, this is an intriguing idea that doesn't have a market."

    Which isn't necessarily going to keep it from being popular, said futurist Paul Saffo.

    "As some people wring their hands about the invasion of privacy and civil liberty, a whole other generation is going to go, 'Cool! I've always wanted to embed technology in my body.' It's going to be fashion," Saffo said. "One sure sign that teenagers will love it is if it terrifies their parents."

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    I guess I will get this discussion started. I totally disagree with this whole concept. I don't really want a chip implanted under my skin. I really think there has got to be another way of doing this. I'm afraid that one day we won't have a choice about it though.

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    I'm with you Jason, it's totally invasive, if the technology exists to read the chips you better believe that someone or some company will create a scanner that you will never see....say as you walk through a door for example, your info is read and recorded and you never know it's happening. No thanks.

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    I'd feel like the Borg on star trek... resitance is futile.
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    the dog pound did that to my pooch when she got loose now if she ever gets loos again they call me damn rottweiler.

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    that right there......is the begining of the end! j.....where did u get this article? there has been talk about this for yrs.....but its growing popularity. it was in time mag about 3 yrs ago. anyway....... this is sickening.......and yes.....it is a big time religious NO NO....... this can traced back into the bible..... the "mark of the beast" is talked about "666" that would be forced onto christians.... placed in there hand or forehead.....(which is where the chip would be implanted) they already do this on animals...... the microchip is injected in the neck area of a kitten or puppy....if they ever get lost..etc.. all u do is scan the back of their neck and walla! its being done ALL over the place now!! all the major hospitals have it , ASPCA does it..... THIS IS NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and ur right jason..... its not going to be an option..... its going to be forced upon everyone and this shit is going to hit the fan. ....... im scared

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    Originally posted by KBgrl
    that right there......is the begining of the end! j.....where did u get this article?
    LA Times

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    Originally posted by KBgrl
    its not going to be an option..... its going to be forced upon everyone and this shit is going to hit the fan. ....... im scared
    Resistance is futile!
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    never gonna happen. people are soooo afraid of shit like this.....then again, if nobody knows.....

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    Originally posted by KBgrl
    that right there......is the begining of the end! j.....where did u get this article? there has been talk about this for yrs.....but its growing popularity. it was in time mag about 3 yrs ago. anyway....... this is sickening.......and yes.....it is a big time religious NO NO....... this can traced back into the bible..... the "mark of the beast" is talked about "666" that would be forced onto christians.... placed in there hand or forehead.....(which is where the chip would be implanted) they already do this on animals...... the microchip is injected in the neck area of a kitten or puppy....if they ever get lost..etc.. all u do is scan the back of their neck and walla! its being done ALL over the place now!! all the major hospitals have it , ASPCA does it..... THIS IS NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and ur right jason..... its not going to be an option..... its going to be forced upon everyone and this shit is going to hit the fan. ....... im scared
    shit like this pisses me off. i agree with kbgirl 100%.

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    Leave it up to the Americans to go and...Oh, uhuhuh, how's it going everybody?

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    Originally posted by KBgrl
    that right there......is the begining of the end! j.....where did u get this article? there has been talk about this for yrs.....but its growing popularity. it was in time mag about 3 yrs ago. anyway....... this is sickening.......and yes.....it is a big time religious NO NO....... this can traced back into the bible..... the "mark of the beast" is talked about "666" that would be forced onto christians.... placed in there hand or forehead.....(which is where the chip would be implanted) they already do this on animals...... the microchip is injected in the neck area of a kitten or puppy....if they ever get lost..etc.. all u do is scan the back of their neck and walla! its being done ALL over the place now!! all the major hospitals have it , ASPCA does it..... THIS IS NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and ur right jason..... its not going to be an option..... its going to be forced upon everyone and this shit is going to hit the fan. ....... im scared
    I've heard a good bit about this. These smart cards comming out that are chipped keep alot of info too. I think they would like to tie up currency in this implant - with the excuse that it will cut down on fraud, and theft. I don't even see my paychecks anymore We have to direct deposit no choice. Cash is slowly fadeing away. Now you scan the card in the grocery store....tomorrow they want to scan your hand............

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    This is crazy!! I can MAYBE see if they did it to prisioners in case of an escape or something strange like that, but there's no way this is going to go over with the general public. Who says technology is such a wonderful tool?? Damn!!
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    Micro Chips

    Technology has been around a while, i was using micro chips to ID my dogs, 7-8 years ago, instead of the nose prints or Tattoo's.

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