Please take the time to read this link I've posted here from another site. In it there's another link to another member's thread called 'the hand of hope', sounds complicated !, sorry.

The photo in the 'hands of hope' is the most beautifull photo I think we're ever like to see. Then take the time to read the rest of my post, and count out lucky stars.

This is not an attempt to lure people to ef.com as I passed this thread with ptbyjason before posting.
It's a beautifull and sad thread, and well worth reading.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum...threadid=97545

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