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    Would you live in a trailer if???

    I HATE track homes. I grew up on 20 acres riding horses and motorcycles. NO neighbors close to the house. I currently live in a house with an ok size lot but I am not happy with the area.
    With house prices exploding in CA, (300,000 dollar house now costs 600,000 thousand) it is hard and stupid to buy a new house. Especially since they are building them with small lots (just big enough to fit your rolling trash can through literally.)

    My ideal plan is to sell my house, buy some property 5 or 10 acres, put a trailer on it and build my own house. A nice sized mobile home thing. 3 bed rooms living room and all that but it wouldnt be a real house if you get my drift. I figure, live in that and plant trees and grass until the house I would build is ready. Once the house is ready, move in and rent out the mobile home.

    The problem is: my girlfriend does not wanna live in a mobile home. She does not wanna have that title. I told her there is no other way unless she wants to live in a track home where the neighbor complains that you are parking too close to his house, noise, walked on his lawn, etc. She hates track homes but doesnt GRASP REALITY.

    You cant own one house, get a loan for another, and pay both mortgages along with property payment and taxes on all three. You could if you were rich, but I am not (yet)

    I refuse to pay 600,000 for a house I can build myself for 250,000 plus have privacy and room to **** around without neighbors knowing when I get home or when I ****.
    BUT I have to sell my girlfriend on the same idea and plan.
    HOW DO I DO THIS.
    Remember. NEEDS VS WANTS for a girl does not compute. They figure that if they want something it over rides all reality and possiblity
    Pay the bill or buy shoes. They buy their ****ing shoes and totally push the bill payment out of mind.

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    Being from Utah, Mobiles are common. My dad used to own a mobile home park. LOTS of my family lives in them.
    They aren't that bad. Of course, I wouldn't want one to live in permanent, but I think I could survive a while.

    I know what you are saying though about the space. I lived on 9 acres and it was great. Now my mom lives on a 1/4 acre lot. That's why I'm going to grad school in Montana. RR

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    I HATE track homes. I grew up on 20 acres riding horses and motorcycles. NO neighbors close to the house. I currently live in a house with an ok size lot but I am not happy with the area.
    With house prices exploding in CA, (300,000 dollar house now costs 600,000 thousand) it is hard and stupid to buy a new house. Especially since they are building them with small lots (just big enough to fit your rolling trash can through literally.)

    My ideal plan is to sell my house, buy some property 5 or 10 acres, put a trailer on it and build my own house. A nice sized mobile home thing. 3 bed rooms living room and all that but it wouldnt be a real house if you get my drift. I figure, live in that and plant trees and grass until the house I would build is ready. Once the house is ready, move in and rent out the mobile home.

    The problem is: my girlfriend does not wanna live in a mobile home. She does not wanna have that title. I told her there is no other way unless she wants to live in a track home where the neighbor complains that you are parking too close to his house, noise, walked on his lawn, etc. She hates track homes but doesnt GRASP REALITY.

    You cant own one house, get a loan for another, and pay both mortgages along with property payment and taxes on all three. You could if you were rich, but I am not (yet)

    I refuse to pay 600,000 for a house I can build myself for 250,000 plus have privacy and room to **** around without neighbors knowing when I get home or when I ****.
    BUT I have to sell my girlfriend on the same idea and plan.
    HOW DO I DO THIS.
    Remember. NEEDS VS WANTS for a girl does not compute. They figure that if they want something it over rides all reality and possiblity
    Pay the bill or buy shoes. They buy their ****ing shoes and totally push the bill payment out of mind.
    Another classic by bermich

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    There is actually a 20 acre plot here in MT for 8k.... I know.. good PRICE!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bull
    Another classic by bermich

    Why was that a classic?

    I spent like 10 minutes typing that post and the only F U C KING input you could give was "Another classic" WTF. Get back to your corner. You are in time out until I say otherwise. And no looking at porn magazines while you are there.
    Big Ol will be along shortly to give you company. The tag team twins are back.

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    Do the trailer..it is not forever! You can always build when the time is right.

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    Bermich, I'm doing exactly what you are talking about right now. Mostly by need than want, my house burned down sometime back so I needed to get back on my feet ASAP and needed something for my family. I bought a decent plot of land and threw a trailer on it. In less than five years I've managed to pay off the land and trailer........next up in two years is a new home.

    I thought about just buying a home in a subdivision but I can't deal with others living so close to me and no way I'm moving back into an apartment........I like my music kind of loud and I don't want to have to get dressed just to walk outside to grab the paper.

    I could have bummed my plan up by three years but I aquired 30 acres in MS that I'm clearing a portion for a another home, I don't want to retire in Florida if you can believe that. hahaha

    I don't know if it will work but maybe if you could show your girlfriend what the budget and timeframe would be for how long you would have to stay in the MH then maybe she would agree to your plan. Good luck bro.......I think your plan is a good one btw.

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    I dunno why, but I've always wanted to live in a mobile home. Something about them being part regular home and part machine, maybe . . .

    If you do decide to go that route, check out the newsgroup on usenet alt.mobilehomes (something like that). They can give you pointers on what to look for and what to avoid.

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    Tock, who are those people in your avatar? Is that you on the left? It's been almost 2 years now, and I havn't been able to figure it out.

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    I have been a mobile home dealer for 6 years. In this time I have bought and sold four homes . started out with 800 a month, last home was 1800. got smart bought my own product put it in 40 acres and my payments are 600. I own my own lot now and making more money than i ever dreamed. 600 a month for 40 acres and 2000 sq ft home makes since to me. Do that with a regular house that you build or not.

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    i'd rather have a double wide then live in my apartment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rambo
    Tock, who are those people in your avatar? Is that you on the left? It's been almost 2 years now, and I havn't been able to figure it out.
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    That would be Madelyn Murray O'Hair in the middle, and her #2 son, and her adopted daughter (was the daughter of her #1 son who became an evangelist, but Madelyn adopted her during one of #1 son's alcoholic spells).

    She's one of the more interesting people I've ever met . . . got to know her a little bit. While she was amused by some big magazine dubbing her "The Most Hated Woman In America," and while she had a controlling, manipulative personality and could be a 1000% genuine bitch with little to no provocation, deep down inside was the core of a frightened little girl.
    She had a pretty awful childhood, which resulted in the usual personality quirks that come from defective parenting, and she had a brilliant mind that worked methodically and had no room for stuff like "magic."

    Lots of people are pissed off at her because of the court case she lodged with the US Supreme Court over religion, but it's probably because they don't really know the basics of the case.
    Madelyn's #1 son came home from school one day and complained that they had to recite the Lord's Prayer every day, and he didn't really want to do it anymore. Madelyn went to see the school principal, asked to get her son exempted from having to say the prayer. The principal told her that her son absolutely had to, there was no getting out of it. Madelyn was told that her son was required by law to say the words (no lip-synching) of the prayer, had to fold his hands, and assume a "reverential attitude." Well, Madelyn thought it was wrong for the government to require someone to pray a Christian prayer, and took 'em to court.
    It took a few years before the complaint eventually worked its way to the Supreme Court, but they decided (text of their opinion is at
    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...=374&invol=203)
    that schools could not tell a kid they had to pray to one or another god. I wonder what all the Jewish and Muslim kids did back then . . .

    Well, anyway, there are a lot of rabid folks who think that public schools should require every kid to say a Christian prayer regardless of what their parents at home think. The Supreme Court thought otherwise. So, Madelyn became the object of their hatred, and the good citizens of Baltimore (where she lived at the time) demonstrated their fondness for her by killing her pets, setting her lawn on fire, and doing a few drive-by shootings on her house. All done with sincere Christian love, I'm sure . . .

    She later formed American Atheists, and began an adventurous life on the radical edge . . . had the FBI constantly checking her out, as she had set up an atheist group at the height of the Cold War with the Soviet Union, and pretty much back then, if you didn't fit the image of church-going family with mom as the housekeeper and dad with a respectable 9-to-5 job, and a house in the 'burbs, you were suspicious.
    Anyway, she got American Atheists (www.atheists.org) up and going, got a law degree (but refused to take the bar exam because they required applicants to take an oath saying they beleived in god) and started a lengthy stream of lawsuits that resulted in organized religion releasing the death-grip it held on society. One of the things they sued over was the old "Blue Laws," the laws that required that stores had to close on Sundays (to observe the Sabbath, in keeping with the 10 Commandments). So next time you go shopping on Sunday, you can thank Madelyn Murray O'Hair. Then they'd work on stuff like in some jails, if you were going to bible classes and praying regularly, they would put you in the nicer part of the jail and arrange to get you out quicker, than if you showed no interest in the bible or praying or religion. And that crap got knocked down pretty quick. They questioned (unsucessfully, though) why the US pays the Chaplain of the US Senate $168,000 to pray four times a week, and pays the Chaplain of the House $158,000 a year to do the same **** thing (plus gives 'em a car, multiple secretaries, and an expense account). Personally, I have no idea why they can't find someone to do it for free. Hell, I'll do it for free . . . heheheheh . . .

    Geez, enough of this . . . I gotta make like a nose in winter and run . . . but as you can probably tell, organized religion and I don't mix too well, and as I kinda like quirky people, I couldn't help but be intrigued with Madelyn. And my gosh, could that woman cuss . . . I've never heard anyone hurl a stream of livid invectives the way that woman could when talking about the Pope or Ronald Reagan . . . Too bad some idiot killed her and her two kids back in 1995. Was a great loss for Individual Freedom in the US. Not much of a loss for elegant living, but a great loss for freedom. She was as great as she was awful, probably deserves to be admired as much as reviled . . . in short, she was my kind of people, and that's why she's my avatar.

    Glad you asked . . .
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    Good to know.

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    Bermich......trialers are lame IMO. I think I would rather live in one of those houses that are close together.

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    whats a track home?.......... ......like a trailer?..........i
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    i have lived in a trailor before...there not all that bad. the cool thing is i could have pulled it myself to a new location.

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    A track home is like any other house in CA. Big houses usually real close together where the side yard is literaly 6 feet wide and your back yard is probably 50 feet back.
    Front yard is probably another 50 feet long. Driveway that fits two cars and thats about it. Absolutely NO property but the houses cost about 450 thousand.


    The trailer wouldnt be that small. They come in and it extends and is mounted on the ground and it kinda looks like a house but is just mobile. You can jack it up and move it to a new location via a crane to a big truck.

    It would only be for about 2 years.

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    Bro, all kidding about trailers aside...

    I think it's an excellent idea. I would not want to live permanently in a trailer, but as a transition to a bigger, nicer house, then definetly!

    2 years is a breeze... and besides it's an investment... once you're done with it, you just sell it and voila.

    Maybe you could sell the idea to your GF with the short term + investment aspect... I dunno... I can't see why she's so against it... after all your idea makes a LOT of sense.

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    Bermich, it wont even take a year to build right. I have been trying to tell my wife the same. The next home is the last home before the nursing home. So I am gonna have it built the way I want. Some of those trailers are pretty **** nice. I say it's the way to go. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by groverman1
    Bermich, it wont even take a year to build right. I have been trying to tell my wife the same. The next home is the last home before the nursing home. So I am gonna have it built the way I want. Some of those trailers are pretty **** nice. I say it's the way to go. Good luck
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    Yah, this is the way to go . . .
    I grew up in a big old antique house on 4 acres out in the sticks, moved to Texas and lived in apartments and eventually bought a tract house (for those who don't know what a tract house is, it's a house in the middle of a big development of similar houses; people of a certain income level are all grouped into neighborhoods, and it's all quite homogeneous and boring).

    As my shrink once told me, "The average person in this country is average," and if that is true, then the average person would probably be happy in the mediocrity and conformity that tract housing inspires. After you've been in one for a while, you notice there really isn't that much difference between it and an apartment, other than there's a little more space between families and you get to do your own yardwork. You still can't do stuff like have a loud garage band without pissing someone off, or do something creative like fly micro-aircraft off your front lawn. And the neighbor's dogs will still **** where you don't want 'em to. Ugh.

    Sure, mobile homes have their flaws, but they also have their charms. And if living in one means you get to stay out of a mediocre, bland tract home, I'd say by all means, go for it.

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    I don't think there is anything wrong with them. Have you taken her to look at them yet? I went with my sister many years ago to look and sh!t, there were some nice mofos. Take her to look and then to a nice piece of land with no neighbors and get her mind to wondering.

    Bermich...ask her why she would care what other people think anyway!

    I think it is stupid some of the homes I see people buying. They will say "I have a 2500 s.f. home in whereever....I can't afford furniture, but I have a home. Doesn't make sense to me.

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    I have lived in Cali all my life...so I am used to Track homes....and to correct you Bermich...track homes are homes that are all the same. They usually have three sdesigns of homes and the repeat the cycle. A few mynute (sp) shanges may appear...for the most part they all look the same...you are right Bermich, they have no room...the try to maximize as much space as possible by filling in the littliest of cracks with homes.

    Tracks home suck becasue of the space and the originality of them. You won't be unique...someone lkese down the street will have the exact same house as you.

    Which is why I am seriously thinking of leaviong Cali and heading either to Texas or Georgia. The homes are beautiful and spacious...and the cost is nothing.

    Cali has beautiful weather and women...but it is not worth the price.

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    2001 28x80 all sheet rock walls 2080sq ft with 3 acres just sold it for 89k. now I'm a wholesaler so this not the norm for something like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mart651
    2001 28x80 all sheet rock walls 2080sq ft with 3 acres just sold it for 89k. now I'm a wholesaler so this not the norm for something like this.
    Thats a trailer??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ammar
    Thats a trailer??
    yep, and i could show you some that cost over 100k just to build at the factory.

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    Thats amazing. I know property here in Michigan is skyrocketing quickly. I remember my mom bought a house for about $140,000 about a year ago she just sold it for $171,000. I was amazed when she told me about her profit.

    Another thought, my buddy just bought a trailer for $3000 and he pays $300 a month for the lot. Its pretty nice, I mean its not HUGE but its better than living at home with the parents ya know.

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    Bermich, i actually see this as an incredibly thoughtful financial decision and I'm at a loss as to how the gf can't see that. I would do it in a heartbeat. Also, I'm not even going to suppose to know anything about her, but I'd be a little nervous of someone who put so much stock in social "stigmas"...those are normally the type of people who prohibit early retirement and other fun things that come about from thoughtful financial decisions.

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    I am totally with BigGreen on this one..I won't make any negative comments about your g/f, but if she is that hung up on little things like that, especially when you are trying to do the smart thing, I wouldn't let her influence my decision. Property prices are skyrocketing everywhere..We just built a new home last year and I could sale it tomorrow and make a 200 thousand dollar profit..It's really getting ridiculous..

    Three years ago we bought a home in a good neighborhood, 2 acres, 4000 sq/ft, 4 bedrooms, and 3 car garage for 530 thousand dollars..This is in the midwest part of the country..We built our new house which is 3 story, 6 bedrooms, 7400 sq.ft, 4 car garage, full finished basement, on 5 acres and it was only 600 hundred thousand and that's with a lot of custom work done. Even the driveway is customized stone..We plan on selling it next year and turning a large profit and then building another one..Think this out carefully because it can make you or break you financially..Unless your married, I wouldn't listen to her..Just my .02 though..

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    oh yeah. if you are planning on building do not buy one of the real nice ones. Without being tied to land they will not hold any value. Buy a used single wide from a repo lot.Late models can be bought for around 12k cash and resold for around 10k one or two years later. I would not buy one to rent as you said above, big no no you lose your privacy with the renter living in your front yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
    Bro, all kidding about trailers aside...

    I think it's an excellent idea. I would not want to live permanently in a trailer, but as a transition to a bigger, nicer house, then definetly!

    2 years is a breeze... and besides it's an investment... once you're done with it, you just sell it and voila.

    Maybe you could sell the idea to your GF with the short term + investment aspect... I dunno... I can't see why she's so against it... after all your idea makes a LOT of sense.

    Red

    Shes against it because of image. She says her sister will make fun of her and call her trailer trash. Thats about it. Girls cant understand the whole investment and long term goals. They are only set on today and what they are gonna wear tomorrow mentallity. They want today to be better than tomorrow because its only about today.

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    I can see your girl's point...but i'm absolutely on your side. Some people just can't "lower" themselves (for lack of a better word...there is a stigma associated with it, like it or not - that's not to say your girl isn't a good girl...she just sees it differently than others) even for a brighter future...i'd do it in a heartbeat.

    funny enough...when i was a baby in ND...my dad sold mobile homes...

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    Im gonna put it on the lower part of the property and hide it with trees and maybe build a little hill around it. On the upper part of the property Im gonna grade the lot for the permanant house. I will end up renting the trailer out.
    5 acres is a lot of land. Not exactly in the front yard. Just on the same piece of property.

    It should take two years cause Im gonna do most of the work myself. Some things I will need to sub out but I cant build it myself and still work all in one year.

    Thanks for the opinions and pics of the trailer.
    Im gonna try to convince her that she can help design the house or something. Give her something to contribute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    Im gonna put it on the lower part of the property and hide it with trees and maybe build a little hill around it. On the upper part of the property Im gonna grade the lot for the permanant house. I will end up renting the trailer out.
    5 acres is a lot of land. Not exactly in the front yard. Just on the same piece of property.

    It should take two years cause Im gonna do most of the work myself. Some things I will need to sub out but I cant build it myself and still work all in one year.

    Thanks for the opinions and pics of the trailer.
    Im gonna try to convince her that she can help design the house or something. Give her something to contribute.
    Five acres is a lot of land if you are within a resonable drive to the city. How far out of the city are you? And Bermich, you are 95% right about girls not understanding long term retirement goals........they do understand them. My friend, the blood and sweat of your lifetime of labour is her retirement plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    Im gonna put it on the lower part of the property and hide it with trees and maybe build a little hill around it. On the upper part of the property Im gonna grade the lot for the permanant house. I will end up renting the trailer out.
    5 acres is a lot of land. Not exactly in the front yard. Just on the same piece of property.

    It should take two years cause Im gonna do most of the work myself. Some things I will need to sub out but I cant build it myself and still work all in one year.

    Thanks for the opinions and pics of the trailer.
    Im gonna try to convince her that she can help design the house or something. Give her something to contribute.
    Then I would go with a double wide maybe 28x56 3 br 2 bth used of course, you can save 20k. You can get 450 to 500 a moth around Georgia and Tenn. area.
    Serously if you need me to look for one in your area win you get in the market I will help. I have access to over 20,000 repos across the U.S.

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    The best way to convince her would be to just keep saying "it's only temporary, then we will have a new house!!" Say, sometimes in life people have to make sacrafices to better themselves. If it were me, I'd say, quit caring what people will think. It's not like it's permanent!!!!! Also remember, this is a girlfriend and not a wife. YOU do whats best for you and hopefully she will be happy!!!!!

    It's one thing to say

    "hey we just bought our new home it's a trailer"

    then to say:

    My boyfriend is building a new home!! I'm very excited. For now, we are going to have to live in a trailer for awhile, but it will be soo worth it once the house is done.

    Best of luck bro,

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    OK. The way I see it she may be thinking "trailor trash". That is definately not true in your case. Trailor parks are inhabited by lowlifes and uncooth white trash. A trailor on 20 acres is a sweet idea. You've got a lot of land and save bigtime. Reassure her that it is only temporary and stand your ground. Perhaps you can find some plans of the type of house you plan on building and get her imagination going.

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    Sorry Bermich but I have to add this in..If you are letting her push you around at this point in your relationship, my friend, you are doomed down the road if you stay with her. You need to stand your ground especially since you are the one who is making the financial leap into home ownership. Unless she is contributing a major portion of the proceeds then she really doesn't have any right to make the big decision. Sometimes you just have to draw a line and not let them cross it or you are setting yourself up for more problems in the future. This I have learned from experience. Trust me!

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