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01-22-2004, 10:14 AM #1Respected Member
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11-Year-Old Girl Gives Birth in Ukraine
11-Year-Old Girl Gives Birth in Ukraine
Healthy Baby Boy Weighed in at 8.4 Pounds
KIEV, Ukraine (Jan. 22) - Ukraine's youngest ever mother on record, an 11-year-old girl, has given birth to a healthy baby boy weighing 8.4 pounds, a newspaper reported Thursday.
Surgeons at hospital No. 5 in the eastern city of Kharkiv delivered the infant by Caesarean section on Tuesday, the Fakty daily said, citing the unidentified mother's doctor, Valentyn Gryshchenko.
Both mother and son are in good health, but will remain in the hospital under observation for a week.
The family of the sixth-grader refused to stop the pregnancy and "put everything in the hands of fate," Gryshchenko was quoted as saying.
The boy is expected to live at home with his mother and grandmother.
The newborn's alleged father is a 26-year-old neighbor who fled fearing criminal charges when he learned of the girl's pregnancy, Fakty said. If convicted of having sexual relations with a minor, the father faces a maximum prison sentence of three years.
Max three years for having sex with an 11 year old? I think the alleged should be sentenced to the victims age, 10 fold. So 110 years.
Thank goodness the baby and her survived
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01-22-2004, 10:17 AM #2
11 year old girl?...............now what does a 26 year old man see in an 11 year old girl?............poor girl...........3 years is no way long enough.........
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, THAT IS STRENGTH
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01-22-2004, 10:21 AM #3
11 year old gave birth to an 8 pound kid. Thats disgusting man. a 26 year old hitting an 11 year old....c'mon 3 years???? The never ending cycle of poverty is about to begin.
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01-22-2004, 10:23 AM #4
Man that is some sick and sad stuff. Wonder if the neighbor has a screw loose? my guess is yes.
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01-22-2004, 10:26 AM #5
I don't get it....
Why are so many men attracted to little girls? I saw something on the news the other night about child porno and prostitution in some countries and the demand for it....?????
Fuking sick bastards!
I have no empathy for whatever happens to people caught doing this...unfortanutely probably nothing will happen though.
peace,
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01-22-2004, 10:27 AM #6
****ING SICK! Disgusting childmolester!!
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01-22-2004, 10:29 AM #7
11?! that's a little girl for christ sake! That dude needs to be off the streets... he's completely deprived her of her childhood, what a sick and selfish bastard!
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01-22-2004, 10:31 AM #8
Wow......... That's sick. They should castrate him.
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01-22-2004, 10:31 AM #9
that's f*cking sick...
and three years is a slap on the wrist IMO...if I were that girls father, he would never reach the court...
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01-22-2004, 10:40 AM #10
whats even sicker is that her father probably even knew about it...........i mean, c'mon....its been at least 9 months now.........and now he's running?!?!..........WTf happened 7, 8 months ago when they found out she was pregant.......
Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths. When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, THAT IS STRENGTH
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01-22-2004, 10:42 AM #11Associate Member
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fu cking bull****...thats all i can say...this fu cking sick **** is scum.
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01-22-2004, 10:44 AM #12
Eh it's Ukraine they're methods for testing pregnancy is probably looking at the stars.
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01-22-2004, 10:46 AM #13Originally Posted by USfighterFC
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01-22-2004, 10:49 AM #14
They usually do go hand in hand over here but over there poor is just the way of life so everyone does what they have to do to survive.
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01-22-2004, 10:54 AM #15Originally Posted by USfighterFC
All former sovjet states are controlled by criminals. Sad but true.
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01-22-2004, 10:56 AM #16
Wow....the youngest I ever heard of before this was 13 and I was shocked at that.....and now 11.......That guy should be dipped in honey and stuck in a fire ant pile
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01-22-2004, 10:57 AM #17
Yeah they even run the gov't man and a lot of those people are such good hearted people who i spent years with and it's sad seeing them get the sh** end of the stick.
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01-22-2004, 10:59 AM #18
That is sick. Poor girl subjected to that. My girls are that young and a grown man doing that to my baby?? Woah would there be no borders or country I wouldnt go to hunt him down. Pretty sad taking advantage of a little girl and manipulating them with an adult authority figure.
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01-22-2004, 11:43 AM #19Originally Posted by Pheedno
Personally i think that rape and murder should carry sentences of life in solitary. The more severe we make the punishments to violent crimes, the less likely they are to happen.
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01-22-2004, 11:46 AM #20Originally Posted by chrisAdams
peace,
ttgb
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01-22-2004, 11:48 AM #21
OMG - 26 years old - and getting an 11 year old little girl pregnant... **** dude... if I was that girl's father - that dude would be in a world of hurt... he'd wish the authorities could find him!
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01-22-2004, 11:49 AM #22Swellin Guest
I am fcuking disgustipated! Were she in my family, the bastard that ran...would not have made it out of town...ever.
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01-22-2004, 12:02 PM #23
Well..that Ped will turn up eventually..dead or otherwise..Vigilante justice is widely embraced in those areas, so hopefully this cat will get what is coming to him.
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01-22-2004, 12:36 PM #24
What she had the kid, she told me she was going to get an abortion.............ok sorry that is horrible I could not resist, yeah i hope they get that guy that is rediculous.
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01-22-2004, 03:00 PM #25
I have a cousin who's step-mother is 4 years older than he is, and his step-grandmother is 16 years older than he is, so his step-grandmother was 12 when she gave birth. Also, when I was in grade school, there were several pregnant girls at school that were 13-14 years old. It's pretty common around here.
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01-22-2004, 03:36 PM #26Originally Posted by Mr. Death
but on a serious note, yes this dude should be found and castrated, then put in solitary for life. now hows that sound
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01-22-2004, 03:42 PM #27
What an a$$hole....who would want to do that with an 11 year old???? That poor girl!!! That's just twisted...
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01-22-2004, 03:56 PM #28Originally Posted by Mr. Death
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01-22-2004, 04:54 PM #29
yeah, both militiaguy and mr. death have hit upon an important point here. don't go casting stones.... while we may all think it is sick for anyone to be with an 11 year old, in some other cultures and throughout history its not that out of the ordinary. 1000 years ago it was commonplace for older men to marry girls of 12 and 13. hell 4000 years ago king tut was married at age 9. he then remarried an older girl cause the first was too young to conceive! my aunt was married at 14 and had a child a year later. the thing was is that nobody thought it strange. here in the states generally the legal age is 17 or 18, but in many, many other places its 15 or 16. when the average life span was 30 years, 15 years old is middle aged!
if the ukrainians have different thoughts of the age at which it becomes grotesque, then the sentences will show that. in many societies they find it odd that we don't behead homosexuals and stone adulterers and fornicators to death. or execute drug users.
the point is, Ill not judge something I know nothing about. he didsomething wrong by the laws and ethics of this land, Ill not say he should be judged by ours, unless we should be judged by thiers
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01-22-2004, 05:07 PM #30
Whether it was okay or not in the past, just the fact that the 26 year old did do that OBVIOUSLY shows he is messed in the head. At 11, she's barely hitting puberty. These people are just messed in the head. In man cases they probably just can't control themselves, no will power. I mean, if he was sane, and wanted to hit someone young, he'd go and get some 18 year old prostitute. But that's not the case, it's basically being a pedaphile and wut not. I don't know if it was rape, cuz the article didn't say that, but still, obviously at 11, the girl doesn't know what she's getting into, even if she let him do whatever he did.
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01-22-2004, 05:10 PM #31
Thats just wrong
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01-22-2004, 05:51 PM #32
thay is unreal.. 11 yr old just a kid.. No more childhood foe her. .. I wish her the best
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01-22-2004, 06:01 PM #33
It wouldnt be "as bad" if the guy was 11 also, but dam 26? He should be tied to a tree in the woods with buck lure all over his ass.........
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01-22-2004, 06:10 PM #34Retired Vet
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I don't suppose she's breast feeding!.
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01-22-2004, 06:12 PM #35Originally Posted by Bouncer AKA bouncer
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01-22-2004, 06:43 PM #36Swellin GuestOriginally Posted by jeffylyte
It is very easy to be so ethnocentric that you forget about the taboos of our world being commonplace events in other's.
It does not excuse the guy...he feared prosecution...he fled...he knew it was wrong...the "state" offers penalties for such actions....the "state" feels it is wrong.
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01-22-2004, 07:02 PM #37
I'm amazed at the age of the girl being able to give birth....but if I was the girls father I'd hunt him down and get midievil(sp) on his aa$....that you could bet on that.
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01-22-2004, 07:05 PM #38
I think crimes like molestion murder sexual assult rape etc should all come with a life sentence.. well maybe thats a little harsh, but the more severe the punishemnt the less the crime is likly to be commited as stated above.. look at the countries where smoking pot is punished by having their hands cut off.. ya its brutal but theres no drug addicts living off the systems tax dollars and no drug dealers ruining kids lives... child moslestion and rape shoudl be life in jail no possibiltity of parole and no exceptions.... the crime rate of rape and child molestion woudl drop darastically... along with this distribution of chld porn should be life in the hole..
more severe punishment = less crime
if i had a kid who raped or molested i'd be the one to drag his ass into the police station...
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01-22-2004, 07:17 PM #39
Im casting stones. I dont care whats acceptable in another country. Just because it was that way 1000 years ago doesn't excuse it today. Thats no logical excuse. Thats like saying incest was practiced in the bible so why not do it today. Even if the laws prohibit marrying an 11year old in that country that is barbaric and unethical. Im opinionating because its wrong to keep women out of schools and used for breeding purposes only and walk behind men. Trade them off like cattle to strenghthen ties between families. Thats barbaric and I judge him and his culture. I say death to him and we invade the country. Just think if we didnt go to Iraq how many more women would be raped in the rape chambers at 11 years old and how many more of women and children would be barried in Saddams sons backyards after they kidnapped and raped them. Gee it was there culture I guess I wont judge.
Originally Posted by jeffylyte
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01-22-2004, 07:24 PM #40
God Bless America
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