Originally Posted by
redwizza
u had no business starting gear use at this stage. when you started you looked like you have never touched weights ever before! and the after shots tell me much the same! i dont know what kind of newbies are floating around these days, but i can sense that alot of them are extremely dilusional as to what steroids can do. i think alot of them decide, as soon as they realize they would like to get bigger, that they should start thinking about the chemical aspects of the game. and thats the sadest conclusion i think newbies have come up with. ill say it again. NO BUSINESS AT ALL TO START GEAR NOW. u need atleast 3 very solid years of natural training with excellent diet. how long have you been working out with SUFFICIENT diet? dont tell me more than a few months coz id feel more bad about the whole thing. in all honesty i was way thicker than you when i was 17, a couple of months before i even started serious weightlifting. and back then i didnt even know what steroids were. all i knew was craetine and a solid workout and diet commitment. so my only advice for you is to leave all drug aspects of the sport behind now and start hanging out in the training/diet sections of this board.
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His products have been out awhile, so if they were a fraction as effective as their claims, we'd all be shooting them instead. I have no personal experience with them, but I've yet to hear a "success" story. They may have marginal effects, but they in no way rival the real deal.
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