8 Week Prop/Var

[dieseL atC]

Well, I just got finished my 2nd cycle which included Tren. I have to say, I have mixed emotions about it. The strength gains were incredible, the physical changes were decent - but the sides sucked. I had trouble breathing, I had constant POUNDING migraines that felt like I got shot with a 12 gauge, and I'd workout and my vision would go blurry. I wouldn't be able to see my hand in front of my face. So this time around I'm running the Prop again, but I'm going to up the dose to 100mg ED and run Var for the first time with it also. Anyways, here's what it's going to look like. Any help would be appreciated. And for the guys who have run something similar, what should I expect because I've heard so many good things about Var, just it's so f*cking expensive.

Week 1-8: Prop @ 100mg ED
Week 1-8: Var @ 30mg ED
Week 1-11: Nolva @ 10mg ED
Week 9-11: Clomid 300/100/50

[TheMudMan]

Week 1-8: Prop @ 100mg ED
Week 1-8: Var @ 40mg ED
Week 1-8: Nolva @ 20mg ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Var dose
Day 1 300mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 2 - 21 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva
Day 22 - 28 20mg Nolva

[Russ616]

Well, I just got finished my 2nd cycle which included Tren. I have to say, I have mixed emotions about it. The strength gains were incredible, the physical changes were decent - but the sides sucked. I had trouble breathing, I had constant POUNDING migraines that felt like I got shot with a 12 gauge, and I'd workout and my vision would go blurry. I wouldn't be able to see my hand in front of my face. So this time around I'm running the Prop again, but I'm going to up the dose to 100mg ED and run Var for the first time with it also. Anyways, here's what it's going to look like. Any help would be appreciated. And for the guys who have run something similar, what should I expect because I've heard so many good things about Var, just it's so f*cking expensive.

Week 1-8: Prop @ 100mg ED
Week 1-8: Var @ 30mg ED
Week 1-11: Nolva @ 10mg ED
Week 9-11: Clomid 300/100/50

Looks good but I would run the var at 40mgs ed.

[itsallmental]

Looks good but I would run the var at 40mgs ed.

let him do trial and error on the var, some people do really good on only 30 mgs.as for that cycle though, my buddy ran the same exact cycle but he ran the prop at 500 mg a week instead of 700 mg a week, and his strength gains are kickin my ass.his bench went up to 400 from 315 and his deadlift is **** near 700

[animal-inside]

I would extend the prop to 10 weeks and do var for the last 8 weeks...

[dieseL atC]

I would extend the prop to 10 weeks and do var for the last 8 weeks...

Why run Prop for 10 when it's faster acting then E/Cyp and that's the recommended length for those 2.

[dieseL atC]

What do you guys pay for Var? Does 100 10mg tabs for $160 sound reasonable?

[animal-inside]

I prefer longer cycles in general... I find the gains easier to keep. And better gains.

[SportsMedVIP]

What do you guys pay for Var? Does 100 10mg tabs for $160 sound reasonable?

That sounds reasonable to me, $2 per 10mg would be the max acceptable to me.