MikeXXL's clean bulk diet good while on?

[IronAdam]

I started my Test e, Dbol cycle on Sunday. Just wondering if MikeXXL's clean bulk diet http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=39010 would work well for this cycle. I'll be doing a 5 day training split one body part a day per week (abs and calves [calves need work] 3X a week) and cardio 3 to 4 times a week at about 40min per session in the morning.

My goal is to put on as little excess fat as possible while not hindering gains. Is the diet gunna cut it?

[map200uk]

hmm id lose the cardio, maybe do cardio during pct? just my opinion

[madmaniac]

no cardio during pct.

[moush]

no u dont want to do cardio during PCT b/c during PCT you have to eat more and keep your gains. After PCT is done then hit cardio and cut up

[bjayg]

**** thats close to me lean mass cycle. i cant bulk on that...........

[Testsubject]

**** thats close to me lean mass cycle. i cant bulk on that...........

Ditto that, thats only 3000 really clean cals per day I dont think youll see the results you want if you eat like that, for me,it would be IMPOSSIBLE to bulk/build muscle on that diet.

[IronAdam]

Where should I make the adjustments? Should I just eat my ass off non stop?

[powerlifter]

I usually have to eat 4000-5000 calories a day to gain while on

[IronAdam]

Wow. If I eat closer to 5000cals a day am I gunna gain alot of fat? Or does the gear make your body burn the extra cals?

Any suggestions on how to beef up the diet? Should I just add in more chicken breasts and rice to fill the gap from 3000 to 5000?

[Dude-Man]

that's basically my diet, and i'm "OFF", that is I don't use now and haven't used any anabolics in the past.

The diet works great for me, so i don't see why it wouldn't work well while "on"

[Testsubject]

Wow. If I eat closer to 5000cals a day am I gunna gain alot of fat? Or does the gear make your body burn the extra cals?

Any suggestions on how to beef up the diet? Should I just add in more chicken breasts and rice to fill the gap from 3000 to 5000?

It just depends on your metabloism, see I have a fairly fast metabolism when Im bulking I eat sh*t loads of fast food (lots of burgers....no fries), pizza, ice cream, steak, chicken, ham, potatoes....all that good stuff, the diet you said you were going to use is more of a cutting diet. Do be afraid to throw in a bit of 'bad food' into your bulking diet it wont hurt anything.

[powerlifter]

try some CLA's a tablespoon is a ton of calories if you are counting

[Steroids101]

try some CLA's a tablespoon is a ton of calories if you are counting

Any oil is, Its all FAT!!!

ill go critique the diet in a minute...

[Steroids101]

7:45 250 ml of egg whites
2 small tortillas, mushrooms, fat free cheese & salsa
1 English muffin with no sugar added jam & peanut butterDrop the PB here, it slows digestion at a time when it is beneficial to spike insulin.
15 gm of whey protein
25 gm of oatmealDouble, or even triple this, and add some sugar.

10:15 1 1/2 can of tuna
15 ml of flax seed oilI really don't like this prot, fat combo during this time of day, save that **** for the nighttime!

12:45 8 eggs & green onion & light mayo (makes an egg salad)I hope these aren't WHOLE eggs. Eating saturated fat and spiking insulin at the same time with the yogurt here is sure to shuttle fat into adapocytes.
3 pieces of whole-wheat bread w/ ham
1 banana
15 gm of whey protein
1 yogurtI would personally drop the yogurt here and add more from whole wheat and whey protein.

3:15 1 1/2 can of tuna
15 ml of flax seed oil

5:15 120 gm of steak
20 gm of whey protein
Mustard
50 gm of carrots
5 ml of flax seed oil

1 HOUR TRAINING START 6:00PM to 7:00PM

7:15 60 gm of whey This PWO meal is horrible! You dextrose PWO. period. Fructose has to travel through the liver first witch delays the Insulin spike you need here. AHHHHH and fat!?!?!? No fat here, ever.
5 rice cakes (caramel flavored)
1 apple
2.5 ml of flaxseed oil

9:30 125 gm of cottage cheese This meal makes sense. Micellar cassien before bed. I would add some saturated fat, and Flax here aswell.
15 gm of whey protein
1 no sugar added fat free yogurt

TOTAL CARBS: 300 GM – 1200 calories
TOTAL PROTEIN 320 GM – 1280 calories
APPROX TOTAL FAT: 63 GM – 567 calories
TOTAL CALORIES: 3047 calories per day


Thats all I could find that I personally would change. Adding more calories while on wouldn't hurt either. Im about to start the same cycle in about a week and a half. Can't wait to here the results!

[bjayg]

Wow. If I eat closer to 5000cals a day am I gunna gain alot of fat? Or does the gear make your body burn the extra cals?

Any suggestions on how to beef up the diet? Should I just add in more chicken breasts and rice to fill the gap from 3000 to 5000?

not if its clean try to keep all of the following low as possible sugar, starch, fat, not to high on the sodium either, but don't cut it out keep it around 2000-2500mg day...........lots of lean meats and complex carbs (filet/chicken/salmon grits, oats, sweet potatoes) is a good way to go........flax or fish oils with every meal.

[IronAdam]

Thanks for your advice everyone. bjayg, good points!

If anyone else has something to add, feel free to. I've got the idea of what my daily diet will look like, but I welcome any tips/tricks that can maximize my muscle gains this cycle.

What do you guys think about the 5 day split? I love it, the workouts are under an hour and I can go all out on the body part for that day. Mon-chest, Tues-bi's/tri's, Wed-back, Thurs-shoulders, Fri-legs. Abs calves and cardio EOD.