1st cycle old school style!!!

**liftordie** · 05-27-2004, 02:10 PM

Im going to run D-bol with Eq for 10 weeks. 8 weeks d-bol and 10 weeks eqpoise. Then cycle off with clomid and nov. what do u all think? I dont think I want to run test my first cycle.......
peace,
Pike

**barbarian** · 05-27-2004, 02:12 PM

wtf??????come on man get real..thats not a cycle..dont go over 6 weeks with the d bol and run test with that man

**nsa** · 05-27-2004, 02:13 PM

Test e with 4 weeks of dbol is a much better first cycle.

**EastCoaster** · 05-27-2004, 02:13 PM

Personally..... if I was just going to run just 1 thing, it would be the test. Otherwise, you're running the risk of some serious gyno. Go to victoria secret and start looking for bra's.

**liftordie** · 05-27-2004, 02:15 PM

I think you need to explain you reasoning.......From what I have researched I have put together d-bol and eq. I dont want to do test my first cycle, im waiting for that. Tell me why this would be a bad cycle

**skullcrusherkid** · 05-27-2004, 02:19 PM

yo man, basically dbol is test...so why not just do the injectable like enanth or cyp. plus its easier on ur body than the ds

**Russ616** · 05-27-2004, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by nsa

Test e with 4 weeks of dbol is a much better first cycle.

Agreed, test e and 4wks dbol is much better.. I personally wouldn't recommend dbol for a first cycle. I would do test only 400mgs ew for 12wks

**SportsMedVIP** · 05-27-2004, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by liftordie

Im going to run D-bol with Eq for 10 weeks. 8 weeks d-bol and 10 weeks eqpoise. Then cycle off with clomid and nov. what do u all think? I dont think I want to run test my first cycle.......
peace,
Pike

Old school style says it all. It's old school because we have since learned better. Old school doesn't mean better in this world. Maybe on MTV.

**MyBodyIsMyTemple** · 05-27-2004, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by liftordie

I think you need to explain you reasoning.......From what I have researched I have put together d-bol and eq. I dont want to do test my first cycle, im waiting for that. Tell me why this would be a bad cycle

better yet tell us what you researched that gave you the conclusion that dbol and EQ is a good cycle! You must have chose it for a reason, and must have not chosen test for a reason..So what reasons do u have?

u also didnt say what dosages or schedule you were going to use to run your gear

**kronik** · 05-27-2004, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by liftordie

I think you need to explain you reasoning.......From what I have researched I have put together d-bol and eq. I dont want to do test my first cycle, im waiting for that. Tell me why this would be a bad cycle

no test no cycle. test is whats in your body naturally why not run, at the very least to help with libido.

**scotttiger54** · 05-27-2004, 02:31 PM

seriously bro, this would be perfect:
wks 1-12: test e @500mg/wk
throughout cycle 10mg nolva/ed
pct: clomid-1st day:300mg, days 2-11:100mg/ed, days 12-21: 50mg/ed
also bump up the nolva to 20mg/ed during pct. tribulus @ 3-4g/day would also be quite benifitial at this time

this would provide very keepable, satisfying gains. trust me

**Pale Horse** · 05-27-2004, 02:31 PM

Did they even have EQ in the old school?

**scotttiger54** · 05-27-2004, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by 1victor

Did they even have EQ in the old school?

well what do you consider old school??

**liftordie** · 05-27-2004, 02:34 PM

I was going to do 300mg of EQ a week and 30 mg d-bol a day. Basically all of you are telling me to run Testosterone enantate 500mg a week with what other? I should do a oral but would it be bad to run EQ with the test? thanks for the help guys!

**MyBodyIsMyTemple** · 05-27-2004, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by 1victor

Did they even have EQ in the old school?

it def wasnt as popular as it is today, at least around my way, and im pretty old school-

test, deca , dbol , drol, and winny were the main gear -

primo, para, and var sometimes too, but not many people were doing EQ

**liftordie** · 05-27-2004, 02:39 PM

Well I said "old school" because I was using D-bol. When I think of d-bol I think about the good old days......when life was great....the pumping iron times..lol
peace,
Pike

**MyBodyIsMyTemple** · 05-27-2004, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by liftordie

I was going to do 300mg of EQ a week and 30 mg d-bol a day. Basically all of you are telling me to run Testosterone enantate 500mg a week with what other? I should do a oral but would it be bad to run EQ with the test? thanks for the help guys!

waste of EQ bro at 300mg/wk, especially for a first cycle-

i rather see you do deca @ 300mg wk, but the test alone or with the dbol will do the job trust the bros here they are right

do the dbol 30mg ED for wks 1-4
and test E 500mg wk wks 1-12

whats your stats/training experience? and your diet? cause u need to be experienced with that stuff to get good gains - test and dbol you can get away with a less experienced diet and training regimien and still make nice gains, although if u want to maximize you better eat alot, eat good, and train hard -

**Pale Horse** · 05-27-2004, 02:41 PM

If you are going to stack do the test e @ 500mg week plus EQ @ 500mg week. IMO

**EastCoaster** · 05-27-2004, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by liftordie

would it be bad to run EQ with the test? thanks for the help guys!

I ran Test E at 250mgs a week and EQ at 200mgs a week for 10 weeks and I had great results. I gained over 25lbs of muscle.

**scotttiger54** · 05-27-2004, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by liftordie

I was going to do 300mg of EQ a week and 30 mg d-bol a day. Basically all of you are telling me to run Testosterone enantae 500mg a week with what other? I should do a oral but would it be bad to run EQ with the test? thanks for the help guys!

no it wouldn't be bad at all to run eq with test. actually that would be a good 2nd cycle. most bro's won't ever do a cycle without eq. but these are those that have a few cycles under their belt. test only is an excellent 1st cycle, and most will agree with me.

**liftordie** · 05-27-2004, 02:45 PM

I have been training for 6 years and have done many powerlifting and bodybuilding contests. I have high goals for bodybuilding and any other weight training related sport I compete in. My diet is good (always could be better meaning no carbs before bed so I could maximize my GH release). I train with 2 other pro bodybuilders (natural pros).
peace,
Pike

**Jeremy34** · 05-27-2004, 02:50 PM

test only IMO....i ran EQ with test e for my first cycle, and I think I could have gotten good gains just running test, just my opinion.

**H-BOL** · 05-27-2004, 02:51 PM

8 weeks dbol ?? jesus christ.. do you want a liver at the end of this cycle hahaa

**SportsMedVIP** · 05-27-2004, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by MyBodyIsMyTemple

do the dbol 30mg ED for wks 1-4
and test E 500mg wk wks 1-12

This is a fine idea for what you're looking for. Try this or:
Test E 500mg/week
EQ 400mg/week

One or the other would be good.

**widowmaker2** · 05-27-2004, 02:57 PM

dude this inst a cycle..correct me if im wrong but it sounds to me like youve already purchased the gear and you dont have any other choice but to run these two together ....look run the dbol @ 30mg ed for the first 4 weeks, get yourself enough test e or cyp to last you 10(12 would be better) weeks, and enough eq to last 10 weeks (12 would be better)do your shots on monday n thursday 200mg each. make sure you have proper pct, and now you r on your way....dont get discouraged we were all newbies at one time. just make sure when you see the next newbie in need of help,help him.

**MyBodyIsMyTemple** · 05-27-2004, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by liftordie

I have been training for 6 years and have done many powerlifting and bodybuilding contests. I have high goals for bodybuilding and any other weight training related sport I compete in. My diet is good (always could be better meaning no carbs before bed so I could maximize my GH release). I train with 2 other pro bodybuilders (natural pros).
peace,
Pike

cool so u should get good gains then with that level of experience...

well i still say run the test alone or the test with the dbol kickstart- The EQ wont kill you but i dont think you need it yet

its your first cycle but likely not your last....
you have plenty of time to add more into the equation in future cycles-

good luck whatever u do bro