first cycle advice

[UnNaturalBuff]

k bros, I'm 22 5'10'', 195, 13%bf, good 3yrs liftin. Hopin to gain around 30#'s and keeps as much as possible afterwards.

Cycle-15wk:
wk 1-10 Test enanth 500mg/wk
wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
wk 7-12 winnie 50mg/ed
wk 1-15 nolva 10mg/eod (only have 600mgs of this any advice here?)
wk 13-15 clomid treat 300mgs working down to 50mgs taken every day
wk 1-15 200mgs b6/ed
also planing to take b12shots (thinking around 1/2cc mixed in with every shot? any advice here too?)

well tear away

[palumbo]

looks good mayberun the deca one week shorter
good luck bro

[dirtdawg]

i would drop the winny for your first cycle, and b-12 500 mcg or 1/2 cc ed, run the deca 8 weeks, and nolva wont help with deca gyno, b 6 is fine, start clomid 2 weeks after your last test e shot

[Da Bull]

k bros, I'm 22 5'10'', 195, 13%bf, good 3yrs liftin. Hopin to gain around 30#'s and keeps as much as possible afterwards.

Cycle-15wk:
wk 1-10 Test enanth 500mg/wk
wk 1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
wk 7-12 winnie 50mg/ed
wk 1-15 nolva 10mg/eod (only have 600mgs of this any advice here?)
wk 13-15 clomid treat 300mgs working down to 50mgs taken every day
wk 1-15 200mgs b6/ed
also planing to take b12shots (thinking around 1/2cc mixed in with every shot? any advice here too?)

well tear away

Add 1 more week on you test,and go wk 8-13 on winny,and pct timing will match up.

[ADRENALINErush02]

Bro are u prone to gyno if so then the nolva would be a good idea if not just have it on hand you may not have to use it

[Russ616]

Add 1 more week on you test,and go wk 8-13 on winny,and pct timing will match up.

I agree with dabull but for a first cycle would recommend less gear, drop the winny...

[UnNaturalBuff]

wouldn't I put on alot more waterweight without the winnie?
but if I do drop the winny would it be good to use test Cypionate instead? same doses

[palumbo]

first cycle bro start nice and easy rome wasnt built in a day work your way up the rope that is what i have learned

good luck

[UnNaturalBuff]

any more advice on cutting the winny? I'm mainly lookin for the nice lean muscle, not the waterweight

[kronik]

any more advice on cutting the winny? I'm mainly lookin for the nice lean muscle, not the waterweight

Nolva and L-dex will help the retention. You will also need to use vit B-6 at 200mg ED thriought cycle and PCT for deca gyno.