Best cutter pound for pound

**Johnnystick77** · 06-09-2004, 11:57 PM

Alright, i got some help earlier about this topic but what's your favorite cutter (money not involved)? i didn't include thermogenics like clen or cytomel or even ephedra. i'm not an expert i just want an opinion on the following so please no flaming?

**TNA** · 06-10-2004, 12:06 AM

What no eq? I wouldnt do while cutting anyway cause I would be able to hold back from the hunger it produces. I picked fina. Anyway did a fina only cycle for the first cycle I ever did (wish I had done prop with it but this was back when I was stupider) and the fina only cycle did work well while cutting. The only thing I dont know bout is hgh cause Im too scared to go ventureing into the realm of other hormones.

**Johnnystick77** · 06-10-2004, 12:10 AM

i haven't tried them all either but i loved eq other than the anxiety/nervousness but it didn't cut as well as the others. i should have included it anyway so vote eq if you want bro's or if i'm leaving something out let me know...

**debulkred** · 06-10-2004, 01:39 AM

hgh isn't a hormone, its a protein.

**fabry** · 06-10-2004, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by debulkred

hgh isn't a hormone, its a protein.

w-h-a-t? hgh a protein? ahhh, me stupid... sorry, need to go! my gnc reference shop close in 10 minutes and really want to go there and try to ask for 2lbs of hgh powder for my post workout protein shakes!!!

h-human, g-greatest, h-heroe, my heroe!!!

**Dude-Man** · 06-10-2004, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by debulkred

hgh isn't a hormone, its a protein.

wrong. it is a hormone, it's just not a steroid hormone.

**itsallmental** · 06-10-2004, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by chrisAdams

wrong. it is a hormone, it's just not a steroid hormone.

took the words right out of my mouth.in regards to the topic, ill stick with ephedra/caffeine till the day i die

**itsallmental** · 06-10-2004, 10:25 AM

btw almost all of the compounds you have up there are more muscle hardeners than 'cutters'.the prop/tre/var/hgh all give you more lean mass gains, they arnt 'cutters'.

**Johnnystick77** · 06-10-2004, 01:41 PM

like i said i'm no pro, but out of those which is the favorite for hardeners/vascularity? anyone?

**FinaZurp** · 06-10-2004, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by chrisAdams

wrong. it is a hormone, it's just not a steroid hormone.

And by the way all most steriods such as test and it's derivatives are all really derivatives of cholesterol. So if you think about they are are really lipids. Any way as far as cutting I can only speak for what Ive seen work and thats the good old standby WINNY!

**Doc40** · 06-10-2004, 05:08 PM

cholesterol is a steroid bro.... it has five aromatic rings in its molecular structure which is the basic classification scheme for steroids . Lipids are classified by their solubility and different chemical properties. So that post would be incorrect

**nsa** · 06-10-2004, 05:36 PM

It should be ECA, clen , T3... Not gear that hardens...

**TheMudMan** · 06-10-2004, 05:37 PM

Fina........ IMO is the best out of all the steroids I have run to lean me out the most.

**Johnnystick77** · 06-10-2004, 05:44 PM

i see...i worded it wrong but i just didn't want to include the thermogenics or diuretics. but thanks

***SV-1*** · 06-10-2004, 05:48 PM

Dnp .

**FinaZurp** · 06-10-2004, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Doc40

cholesterol is a steroid bro.... it has five aromatic rings in its molecular structure which is the basic classification scheme for steroids. Lipids are classified by their solubility and different chemical properties. So that post would be incorrect

Sorry but I am correct. I know cholesterol is a steriod , and what I meant was that testosterone along with estrogen and so on are synthesized from cholestorol. Cholesterol belongs to the fused ring family of steriod "lipids," and cholesterol consists of "four" carbon rings fused together not five. They differentiate from each by the different functional groups protruding from them.

**ColdSore** · 06-10-2004, 11:59 PM

prop if i could only have one because it would fight catabolism the best...but prop/tren /winny would be my favorite stack by far

**Money Boss Hustla** · 06-11-2004, 12:20 AM

Growth.

**FinaZurp** · 06-11-2004, 01:22 AM

I guess doc doesn't have much to say. Sorry if I seen a little raw about this but I really am getting frustrated with the amount of information that isn't accurate. If your going to contradict someone be sure that your are 100% sure you are correct and not jump in by hersay or assumption. At least post it as an questionable response. Ahhh, enough of my rambling. Sorry for the high jack. Forgive me for editing my post but something I forgot to comment on earlier was that yes human growth hormon is a hormone but it does fall into the classification of a protein along with insulin and many other hormones.

**wolar32** · 06-11-2004, 01:31 AM

Any steroid can be an effective cutter. It is more of a diet issue. I can use test and thyroids to cut (I don't typically but I have in the past). The others like winstrol and anavar are just more convenient because there are less estrogen related side effects (water retention).

hgh=191 sequence amino acid

**kingofmasters** · 06-11-2004, 04:29 AM

Originally Posted by wolar32

hgh=191 sequence amino acid

That's not true...!

A protein is a peptidebond between amino acids...!

No aminoacid can be 191 parts, because then it would be a protein...

Second off all to the other posts: Almost all Hormones are Proteins!

**FinaZurp** · 06-11-2004, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by kingofmasters

That's not true...!

A protein is a peptidebond between amino acids...!

No aminoacid can be 191 parts, because then it would be a protein...

Second off all to the other posts: Almost all Hormones are Proteins!

Huh? Yes most Hormones are proteins and GH is a protein. Or more specifically fall into the what you would call a peptide as a type of chemical, But as far as cholesterol and testosterone and so on like I said earlier, they are fused ring steriods along with Progesterone and Aldosterone. Hell here the structures for anavar , tren , and deca .