bulking time

**palumbo** · 06-16-2004, 01:13 AM

ok i have been working out for aprrox 5 years now and feel i have come close to reaching my natural abilities

510 240ish 17%bf

looking to bulk i realize that most bros will say test only but i feel like i would like to add a little more then that so any comments on my upcoming cycle would be appreciated

thanks in advance

dbol 30mg week1-4
test e 500mg week 1-13
deca 400mg week1-11
nolva 10mg throughout
b6 200mg throughout
milk thistle 1000mg throughout
proper pct throwing in some clen and eca two weeks on two off statring during pct

diet will be key i know eating clean with everything in site

any ideas this ok ?

**palumbo** · 06-16-2004, 04:55 AM

bump

**usualsuspect** · 06-16-2004, 05:05 AM

Test-E and D-bols would be a good choice for a bulking cycle. Save the Deca for another cycle.

Btw, how old are you bro?

**qccat** · 06-16-2004, 05:10 AM

test e and dbol is great, might wanna drop some bf before starting though or youll get pretty high with that combo, if you do it anyway, eat clean

**palumbo** · 06-16-2004, 05:13 AM

plan on eating clean and using some clen along the way 27 yrs old

**palumbo** · 06-16-2004, 11:27 AM

ok guys most bros are syaing because my bf is a little high that i should lay off the deca so if i were to switch the deca for some eq and runn it with the test and dbol how different would the results be and what kinda of gains could i expect?

**palumbo** · 06-16-2004, 11:56 AM

anyone?

**jmp51483** · 06-16-2004, 01:09 PM

I think your trying to swim too deep your first time to be honest with ya.. I would run the Dbol /Test cycle for your first one.. Your going to get good gains with this.

**SportsMedVIP** · 06-16-2004, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by jmp51483

I think your trying to swim too deep your first time to be honest with ya.. I would run the Dbol/Test cycle for your first one.. Your going to get good gains with this.

I'll second that. If you think you're special and test alone just won't do it for you than just add the D-bol or the deca alone. Or maybe just EQ. 3 or more compounds is just not needed and adding more risk than benefits after a certain point. The key to staying in this game is longevity and making sure you're not out weighting your safety to results ratio. I suggest:
Test E 500mg shot 2x a week. 14 weeks
EQ 400mg shot 2x a week. 12 weeks
Just because you can get gyno from two completely different sources running test and deca and you don't even have any clue wether or not you're gyno prone from test alone as of right now so if it happens, who knows which remedy to administer. Also EQ because of the bodyfat concerns. JMO.

**SportsMedVIP** · 06-16-2004, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by ECoastVIP

I suggest:
Test E 500mg shot 2x a week. 14 weeks
EQ 400mg shot 2x a week. 12 weeks
JMO.

I forgot and don't want to not suggest proper PCT. I'd say Nolva 10mg ED throughout up to PCT. 20mg ED through PCT.
L-dex at .25mg ED throughout cycle and PCT.
Clomid therapy//300mg days 1-3, 200mg days 4-7, 100mg days 8-14, 50mg days 15-21
start Clomid 2 weeks after last Enanthate injection.

**djboots** · 06-16-2004, 02:42 PM

i did the same cycle for my first and had great results. but yes you are taking a risk in sides and not knowing how your body reacts. i'd say its a great first cycle but that just going by my results and experiance. it really lies in what risk you willing to take
good luck