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[juiceinthehood]

Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg Ed
Weeks 1-14 Test E 600mg (300mg 2x A Week)
Weeks 1-14 Eq 500mg (250 2x A Week)
weeks 10-17 fina 75mg ed
Weeks 14-17 Prop 75mg Ed
Weeks 11-17 Winni 70mg Ed
Weeks 4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22 Clen 120mcg Ed
Weeks 1-21 Nolva 20mg Ed
Weeks 17-21 Clomid 100mg Ed
Weeks 4-8-12-16 hcg 1000iu per injection
Milk Thistle, Cranberry Extract, Vitamin B5, glucosamine

any comment on this cycle
stats 190 5,9' 14-15% b/f 4th cycle training 12 years on/off looking to keep 20lbs lean hard muscle

[UrbanLegend]

I would run the HCG throughout the cycle instead of just that last week, your nuts may be extremely atrophied by that point, especially with the tren. Have you used HCG in the past? You know your body best, you may not even need it, just watch what your balls do and decide when to throw it in.

[juiceinthehood]

no i have never used hcg only clomid i still might drop the fina i have researching fina and have read that its really toxic and shuts you down big time but if i do decide to use it wouldnt i be ok bcuz i will run it alongside test prop thanks

[juiceinthehood]

oh yeah i want to run hcg throughout cycle bcuz i have read ppl have seen better results that way but most ppl on the board have advised not too

[Consistency]

id change it up a bit

Weeks 1-4 Dbol 35mg Ed
Weeks 1-14 Test E 600mg (300mg 2x A Week)
Weeks 1-14 Eq 500mg (250 2x A Week)
weeks 8-15 fina 75mg ed
Weeks 15-17 Prop 75mg Ed
Weeks 12-17 Winni 70mg Ed
Weeks clen 2 on, 2 off, 2 on....
Weeks 1-21 Nolva 20mg Ed
Weeks 18-21 Clomid 100mg Ed

[juiceinthehood]

is only 2 weeks of prop really worth
and im running clen 1week on 1 week off i have had better results that way

[juiceinthehood]

is only 2 weeks of prop really worth it
and im running clen 1week on 1 week off i have had better results that way

[iNvid]

I'd stick to 2 weeks on/off for clen =]

[Consistency]

is only 2 weeks of prop really worth
and im running clen 1week on 1 week off i have had better results that way

its actually 3 weeks of prop and yes it worth it. it will kick in after a few days and will help with recovery. bc it fills in the gap leading up to pct.

[juiceinthehood]

cool thanks

[juiceinthehood]

made some changes

Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg Ed
Weeks 1-14 Test E 600mg (300mg 2x A Week)
Weeks 1-14 Eq 500mg (250 2x A Week)
weeks 10-17 fina 75mg ed
Weeks 14-17 Prop 75mg Ed
Weeks 11-17 Winni 70mg Ed
Weeks 4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22 Clen 120mcg Ed
Weeks 1-21 Nolva 20mg Ed
Weeks 17-21 Clomid 100mg Ed
Weeks 4-8-12-16 hcg 1000iu per injection
Milk Thistle, Cranberry Extract, Vitamin B5, glucosamine

any comment on this cycle
stats 190 5,9' 14-15% b/f 4th cycle training 12 years on/off looking to keep 20lbs lean hard muscle

[BodyMechanic]

made some changes

Weeks 1-4 Dbol 30mg Ed
Weeks 1-14 Test E 600mg (300mg 2x A Week)
Weeks 1-14 Eq 500mg (250 2x A Week)
weeks 10-17 fina 75mg ed
Weeks 14-17 Prop 75mg Ed
Weeks 11-17 Winni 70mg Ed
Weeks 4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18,20,22 Clen 120mcg Ed
Weeks 1-21 Nolva 20mg Ed
Weeks 17-21 Clomid 100mg Ed
Weeks 4-8-12-16 hcg 1000iu per injection
Milk Thistle, Cranberry Extract, Vitamin B5, glucosamine

any comment on this cycle
stats 190 5,9' 14-15% b/f 4th cycle training 12 years on/off looking to keep 20lbs lean hard muscle

jmo but i would wait until wk 10 or 11 to start clen.

[juiceinthehood]

i would like to lose some body fat b4 i start the fina prop and winni

[BodyMechanic]

i would like to lose some body fat b4 i start the fina prop and winni

if your diet is right imo tren/winny/prop is the right cycle. the tren will keep your strength up when you drop your calories to cut. i thought you wanted to put on some weight before you started the tren.

[BodyMechanic]

i don't think you could gain 20lbs while trying to cut calories unless your genetics are awesome.

[juiceinthehood]

i do but my b/f is kind of high my diet will be clean 2g protein per lb low carbs healthy fats most calories from protein

[juiceinthehood]

i guess ur right but if i ate high calorie clean diet and still take the clen you really dont think im going to gain 20lbs with this gear

[BodyMechanic]

i think 20 lean hard pounds is over stretching a bit. NO doubt you could gain 20lbs off the first 11 wks with the dbol and test,but to keep 20lbs after cutting i don't think so.

[BodyMechanic]

i guess ur right but if i ate high calorie clean diet and still take the clen you really dont think im going to gain 20lbs with this gear

like i said you could easily gain 20lbs but you will have some water ret. with the dbol and test.

[juiceinthehood]

cool i plan to pee alot though lol thanks for input very helpful