Prop. + Winny...

**juiceISloose** · 06-20-2004, 10:28 AM

I need some help guys. I'm gonna be running Test. Prop with Winny and i need to know the best way to cycle it so i will get the most out of it? Also how should i use Nolva and Clomid as well? Thanks

**map200uk** · 06-20-2004, 10:55 AM

nolva should be run throughout, clomid for pct...do a search for pheednos pct
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erm u realise prop has to be shot ed or eod? just im presuming this is a first cycle

also what is ur aim

**juiceISloose** · 06-21-2004, 07:09 AM

Dont you have to start the Prop. before the winny? And how much Nolvadex should i be taking a day?

**map200uk** · 06-21-2004, 07:24 AM

give us some indication of your goals and what U had in mind of the cycle and ill critique it

**TheMudMan** · 06-21-2004, 07:37 AM

You need to run the Prop throughout the cycle

What are your stats: age, weight, height, cycle history, and goals for the cycle.

**ripped4fsu** · 06-21-2004, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by juiceISloose

Dont you have to start the Prop. before the winny? And how much Nolvadex should i be taking a day?

depends on how long you plan to run this cycle... I would do it like this, but get some other opinions.

PROP 100mg ed wk's 1-12
Winny 50mg ed wk's 6-12
as for the nolva, that depends on how prone to gyno you are.

that's a lot of shots though bro... you up for it?

~R

**juiceISloose** · 06-21-2004, 10:19 AM

thanks guys, I'm 21. 5'8'', 195 pounds. I've only done one other cycle of deca and sust. I wanna keep as much size as i can and cut up as well.

**juiceISloose** · 06-21-2004, 10:23 AM

How many shots a week of each? I'm def. up for it.

**ripped4fsu** · 06-21-2004, 10:36 AM

Winny and prop both need to be injected ED or at least EOD.

**juiceISloose** · 06-21-2004, 11:31 AM

Good ****. So i shouldn't cycle in the winny until the 5 or 6th week? Thanks for everything. Also could i add anything else in there to get more cut?

**ripped4fsu** · 06-21-2004, 01:57 PM

IMO add Deca or EQ at 400mg wk. you can do either of these at 1 injection per wk since they are slow esters.

Something else you might want to consider is Winny and PROP are two of the most painful gears to run... so if your running a cc of each every day you're probably going to be "uncomfortable" to say the least. why not run Cyp for the cycle and front load with the PROP for the first 3wks, then run the Winny at the end. toss in a little EQ or Deca and you're on your way!

Sorry bro... have I totally screwed up your cycle now? if you're going for cut the PROP/Winny is the way to go. but if you just want an all over "GET BIG" cycle, consider the Cyp with some Deca or EQ along with the Prop and winny. it all depends on your goals... but at your age you may want to hold off on the heavy stacks until later.
~R