take a look at my cycle

[Starwin]

week 1-8 500mg sustanon
week 1-4 25mg D-bol ED
week 1-6 300md Deca
week 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED

then PCT clomid.

day 1 150mg
day 2-9 100mg ED
day 10-16 50mg ED
day 17-25 50mg EOD

how long after the last shot of sust should i start using clomid?

i know i should do sust EOD cud of the prop. but i believe i can gain much without the prop

not shure about the clomid, can i do it different?

[kronik]

week 1-8 500mg sustanon
week 1-4 25mg D-bol ED
week 1-6 300md Deca
week 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED

then PCT clomid.

day 1 150mg
day 2-9 100mg ED
day 10-16 50mg ED
day 17-25 50mg EOD

how long after the last shot of sust should i start using clomid?

i know i should do sust EOD cud of the prop. but i believe i can gain much without the prop

not shure about the clomid, can i do it different?

Your cycle is to short to see any significant gains IMO

[BUYLONGTERM]

To short. 6 weeks of DECA won't do you any good. It will take up to 4 weeks for it to kick in. Try:

week 1-4 25mg D-bol ED
week 1-12 500mg sustanon (splitting dose and shooting EOD)
week 1-10 300mg Deca
week 1-12 10mg Nolvadex ED
CLOMID

[Starwin]

you say 500mg sust a week EOD. then it´s not 500mg.. isent it to much for the body with EOD?

[Starwin]

anyway, is the prop such a big deal? if i run the 12week cycle i will gain good without the prop?

[map200uk]

id say yes you will gain good without the prop but in my opinion you may aswell have used a single esther, anyway you have the sust now..do as buy said

and some b6 would be useful

[Latimus]

sust is eod or ed...you cant just say you dont care about the prop...first, you want it because you want to be using all the test to the fullest potential...second...if you dont keep your test levels consistent then you will see sides...so shoot ED or EOD or dont use sust

[monstercojones]

week 1-8 500mg sustanon
week 1-4 25mg D-bol ED
week 1-6 300md Deca
week 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED

then PCT clomid.

day 1 150mg
day 2-9 100mg ED
day 10-16 50mg ED
day 17-25 50mg EOD

how long after the last shot of sust should i start using clomid?

i know i should do sust EOD cud of the prop. but i believe i can gain much without the prop

not shure about the clomid, can i do it different?

i'd run it like this...

1-4 35 mgs dbol ed
1-11 250 mgs of sust e3d (583 mgs/week)
1-10 150 mgs deca e3d (350 mgs/week)

1 - (end of pct) 10 mgs nolva ed

i'd run the clomid a total of 4 weeks and dont do 50 mgs eod, run it ed...

like map said- 200 mgs b6 ed would be good as well, to help keep prolactin levels from becoming a problem...

sust really should be shot ed or eod.... but if this is your first cycle, you should see good gains off of what i laid out...

[BUYLONGTERM]

you say 500mg sust a week EOD. then it´s not 500mg.. isent it to much for the body with EOD?

If you look at my post, I said SPLITTING UP the 500mg dosage....Not 500mg EOD! That would be insane!!!!

[BUYLONGTERM]

i'd run it like this...

1-4 35 mgs dbol ed
1-11 250 mgs of sust e3d (583 mgs/week)
1-10 150 mgs deca e3d (350 mgs/week)

1 - (end of pct) 10 mgs nolva ed

i'd run the clomid a total of 4 weeks and dont do 50 mgs eod, run it ed...

like map said- 200 mgs b6 ed would be good as well, to help keep prolactin levels from becoming a problem...

sust really should be shot ed or eod.... but if this is your first cycle, you should see good gains off of what i laid out...

EXACTLY!

[Starwin]

it´s my second cycle. the first one was just omnadren e4d for 10weeks.

if i drop out the deca . will i gain good with d-bol 30mg ed and sust eod?
if not deca, what can i stack sust and d-bol with?