** DECA / WINNY **

[redeone]

Can someone help me to build a good cycle with deca and winstrol. I'm 29, 185lbs, 5'10'', 2 years workout and i want get big. And also, this will be my first cycle!!!

What do you think about this:

week 1-8 - Deca - 400/week
week 1-8 - win - 50 / eod
week 10-12 - clomid

Thanks to help-me!

[G Child]

Winny Deca won't get you "Big", you'll gain some quality muscle, but I don't see anyone blowing up off just that. Best stuff for you to gain mass with is Test. Dbol works well too for mass.

[jmiro]

2 years of working out is too little. I would work out 5 years up your protein intake lower you carb intake, and if you reach a plateau than start with gear
i would do
deca 1-8 week
winny 4-10 week
clomd post cycle

[arthurb999]

400 mg a week deca for 8 weeks
50 mg winnie ed weeks 4-10
Start Clomid 3 days after last winnie.

[MindBomb]

If this is your first cycle, do some research on verious types of AS...Not a flame bro...Then figure out what you are trying to achieve...Deca and winny alone will not get you "big"...If it's the size that's important to you, you can't go wrong with test...But definitly search for others' "first cycle"...That should give you some starting point...Good luck bro.

[landshark]

Test (long acting ester) 400-500 mgs.
1-10
Deca 400 mgs.
1-10
Winstrol 50mgs. (every day)
6-12
Clomid (different opinions on how much and when)
13-16

Happy growing...

[redeone]

landshark, MindBomb, arthurb999, jmiro, G Child, thanks a lot to advise me.



but, which one is better :

deca - week 1-8 400 mg
winny- week 6-10 50mg eod

OR

deca - week 1-8 200mg
sust - week 1-8 250mg
winn-week 6-10 50 mg edo

which kind of results i can get?
I GOT to to like that because i dont have another source! He is gone.... forever!!!

[arthurb999]

deca - week 1-8 400mg
sust - week 1-8 500mg
winnie - week 6-10 50 mg ed

find another source... be patient bro.

[Mr. Africa]

see the bros. have different openions here that might confuse you; guys let him stay away from test. for the first cycle ,lets spare it when gianing becomes difficult..
my openion is
deca 1-7 400 mg
clomid 25 mg /day 1-10
winstrol 50 mg /day 1-10
clomid 11,12,13 at 100 mg,100 mg,50 mg
you will see no side effects.

[MindBomb]

Never run winny for more than 6 weeks. It'll do your liver wonders. Need to run deca for about 10 week because it takes 4 to 5 weeks to kick in. Clomid is used post cycle, if you run it during cycle, it's no help. Just waist of good clomid. And test is there if you want bigger gains.