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[Mr.En4cer]

What a good roid to start out on.. that will build muscle mass and decrease fat..???any ideas

[viper]

the two favorite basic cycles for beginners are:

test / deca / dbol - for bulking
test / deca / winny - for cutting
** eq can be exchanged for deca **

[Tankass]

Here is a great beginner cycle

Week 1 - 4 DBol - 30mg Every Day
Week 1 - 8 Deca - 400mg
Week 1 - 8 Sust - 500mg

[Terinox]

I would agree with "gsims" but I would increase it to 10 weeks of the deca/sus and of course the clomid

[Terinox]

Why would someone going on a first cycle need test??? Like enanthate, that's too "advanced" for beginners. Guys like us just need deca/sus/winny/dbol/anavar the results will be quite good at just that (not all those at the same time)

[MindBomb]

What's your stats (BF level determins what you need if at all)???What's your goal (Bulk/Cut)???Because seems, from your question, you need more than AAS help...

[landshark]

Originally posted by Terinox
[B]Why would someone going on a first cycle need test??? Like enanthate, that's too "advanced" for beginners. Guys like us just need ..../sus/...[B]

??? ???

HUH?

[The Emperor]

Originally posted by Terinox
Why would someone going on a first cycle need test??? Like enanthate, that's too "advanced" for beginners. Guys like us just need deca/sus/winny/dbol/anavar the results will be quite good at just that (not all those at the same time)

Ummmm.... you know that sust is test right?

[Methuselah]

I can speak fro experience that on the first cycle, a little goes a long way. Test is probably the best for a beginner. Test/Deca is better yet.

just my $.02