New Kid Needs Help!!

[cobradukes]

Hey guys first of all i would like to say what a great site this is and that it has already helped me on my way to my first anabolic cycle. I've got the gear and now would like a little advice on what my first cycle should look like. I have 30 cc's of Winny Depot, 15 cc's of Primo depot and 100 Anavar. Here's what i came up with.

Week 1: 100mg's of PD
100 mg's WD
Week 2-4: 200 mg's PD
200 mg's WD
Week 5: 300 mg's PD
200 mg's WD
Week 6-7: 200 mg's PD
200 mg's WD
Week 8: 100 mg's PD
200 mg's WD

Week 9-13: 20 mg's Anavar

I'm only 20 and have been lifting for 9 months. In case you are wondering why im taking a cycle so early in my lifting career well im gonna be honest, my fathers a doctor and got me the gear and will be doing blood work and injecting the shots for me so i feel pretty safe. Right now i weigh 160 at 5'8 and 5 % BF and i'm looking to gain around 15-20 lbs. Also do i need clomid, we are still unsure of this.
Thanks!!!!!!

[Billy Boy]

Originally posted by Tennis_God
damn...thats a pretty cool father...no flame man...but even though you have a pro injecting it I question the reason why you would want to do this. And also, why is your father willing to??...

Should,nt he know better?

[Pete235]

I'm sorry but I have a hard time believing your @ 5% bf. Not saying it's not true...but that is VERY VERY lean. You could bulk up a little, put on a little BF and get awsome strength gains naturally.

However, for arguements sake, 100mg/week of primobolan is not enough...bump it to 300mg/week. As far as the winny depot goes you should be running 50mg/EOD (this is your first cycle right?) Good luck bro...make sure you wait and see what some of the Vets recommend.

[MindBomb]

Most alarmoing thing I've read, beside your father, is that your only 20 and been lifting for 9 months....Guys, what do you think???Well here it goes, at 20 your potential for growth is sky high...9 months of traing???Hit the gym harder...You still have ways to go before turning to AS...Work on your diet and edumacate yourself in right way to train before turning to AS...In order to maixmize your potential this is the best way...Bro be safe..

[cobradukes]

The reason for the juice is because i want to play football and need to gain some weight, my father knows i want to juice so he is supporting me even though he knows i am "cheating!" And yes i am 5 % BF Pete!!

[MindBomb]

Try out for kicker...ASS is not right for you...Your father should have told you that...Little bro, being safe is better than playing football...It's not like you are going to the pros...

[cobradukes]

Is there really something so horrible that taking a cycle at 20 is gonna do that a cycle at 21 isn't?

[MindBomb]

It's not just your age...Your total knowledge of ASS is limited and can do more harm than good...Your training lever of 9 months is way too soon for you to consider AAS...People train for years before turning to AAS...Along with your tender age of 20 is why you should consider training Natural for now...ASS will always be here, your father will make sure of that....

[REM]

well guys here is the thing bcuz his father is
a doc does not mean he is knowlegdeable about ass,
and i'm not against nobody's opinio ok,
reason why this is cuz my doc has
knowlegde problem and i think i know more than he does, so what i do i use him as my gear supplier, then i get a decent cycle from this board.
COBRADUKES as everyone is reccommending to wait before you do ass, mean time search for info bro,
and if you decide to roids then follow
the suggestions this board is offering and
good luck man....

[Iron horse]

most people's parents would flip over juice, no matter how old they are. I can't believe this! I could almost see if you were in your forties and you asked your dad for hormone theropy or something, but 20?? your close to your hormonal peek still!

I'd agree with the rest and say wait.

but if your going to anyway, i'd say say make the wintrol 50 ED, Ive heard it works a lot better, tho 50 EOD is alrite too if you want. you've already been told about the primo at 300/mgs week.

and you dont have enough anavar for a cycle

[Iron horse]

by the way, if your dads a doctor, how'd he get wintrol?? isnt that only used on animals?

[cobradukes]

It's Winstrol Depot Iron Horse not Winstrol V!!
Isn't 300 mg's of Primo a week a lot for a first time user?
How much more Anavar do i need to complete the cycle?

[Iron horse]

300mgs of primo a week isn't a lot, even for a first time user

9 - 13

anavar 50mgs/day

my mistake on the winny!

[OT8268]

I agree with the rest, your age is a huge factor, but you are right lots of people start early, but its your lifting experience that is even more alarming, I am 20 and I have been lifting for 5 years(have done no cycles), you havent given yourself a chance, you might have sick genetics that you dont even know about. Furthermore I play college football, and if you want to start playing football at 20 you wont be very good because there is some skill involved in football, its not all brute strength (some is) so you would be hurting yourself for what would end up being a worthless football career, its not worth it

[manijak]

I look...and I feel proud of yall..;-)

[The Emperor]

I am personally not concerned about your age as I am about your training level. There is tons that you may think you know that you don't. This invloves lifting, dieting, etc... You don't even know if you have the discipline to make this work. I think you are making a mistake but hey it's your body...

[Methuselah]

Have your dad write me a script and I'll talk you through your cycle.

[cobradukes]

sorry Methuselah but i doubt he would do that!!
ok the thing i dont understand about dieting is that no matter what i eat i never gain one ounce of fat, all i eat now is whatever is in front of me. Right now i live in a dorm so i have no choice what to eat because i'm on a meal plan. So how much could my diet make any difference?

[OT8268]

I am in college also and I havce a meal plan and I try to make it work, I eat my breakfast, lunch and dinner and inbetween a bar, or shake supplement. Meal plans are the best, we dont have to prepare our own food, I eat a lot of baked chicken, baked potatos, tuna on whole wheat stuff like that, you have so much to choose from, just dont eat a lot of saturated fats and stuff like that

also you said youwanted to start to playfootball? have you ever played ball? Its not as easy as it sounds to just join a football team because you juiced, some kids juice on my team and the next year they are still garbage

[JP1570]

yea, I'm in college too bro. Like OT said, eat the meat. No matter what they serve you, eat a bunch of protein and get some solid carbs, and get your rich dad to buy us both some mrp shakes and some bars lol.

[OT8268]

Hey my dad is a doc too, have your dad talk to mine haha
But can any doctor prescribe gear, or only certain types

[Fif the Great]

As far as I know, any M.D. can prescribe prescription medicine.

Anyways, was I the only one to notice this?

It's not just your age...Your total knowledge of ASS is limited and can do more harm than good...

ASS will always be here, your father will make sure of that....

Try out for kicker...ASS is not right for you

Credit to MindBomb...

[cobradukes]

hey now i'm not that stupid, i've played footaball throughout high school but i only was a place kicker, i want to try to play running back or wide reciever, i run a 4.7 40 time and need to get that down to at least 4.5 to be effective because i'm not that tall. And as far as Fif the Great knows you dont know that much b/c not just any doc can prescribe steriods!!

[OT8268]

I play football and no sorry ass is just going to walk onto the football field after two years down time, especially someone who played kicker and is switching to running back, and do anything in football, you are wasting your time and hurting yourself is basically what everyone is saying. And if you have been lifting for only 9 months I cant see you being in any physical condition to play college ball juice or not

[coroner]

Originally posted by cobradukes
So how much could my diet make any difference?

Just the mere fact that you said that means that you have a LOT of learning (and GROWING) to do.

DIET= 60% OF RESULTS
WORKOUTS (AND DRUGS)= 40% OF RESULTS

If you want to be bigger, your gonna have to EAT. A LOT.

[Fif the Great]

Damn dude, I said as far as I know... I didn't say I was 100% sure of it. Don't come on here and be an ass just because guys aren't responding the way you want them to.

[super 88]

Not to flame you bro,but being someone who previously worked in the medical industry I would REALLY,REALLY be careful about naming a family member as my source on an open board. Just look'in out for my bro's.