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**kswat** · 07-02-2004, 11:38 PM

Ok, I'm stupid for not taking any test with my eq400 ew cycle. I'm starting some Winnie at the end. Help my wife to love me. Kidding aside,
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My pecker has already taken a nose dive. Is it possible to increase my libido with something other than test? I do not want to bloat.

**Krunchtime** · 07-02-2004, 11:42 PM

maybe some trib... or viagra.

**kswat** · 07-03-2004, 12:06 AM

Is there something that can give me minimal sides, maximum gain? I'm 35 and I just want to be in great shape. Help meeeeee.

**Da Bull** · 07-03-2004, 12:50 AM

Prop @ 75 mgs ED.....very little water retention.Also get some HCG ,and run some prov as well.

**BigPoppaV** · 07-03-2004, 01:29 AM

I don't get why everybody thinks there's something wrong with taking EQ by itself...
I'm taking just EQ right now, and have so far made the best gains of my life (2nd cycle only) hard, lean, quality muscle.. no negative sides (like on test) no blood pressure probs, no raised aggression, etc. I love it. Oh and incase you're wondering, my libido is just fine.

**x_muscle** · 07-03-2004, 01:52 AM

i think EQ by itself is waste of money. i run EQ and only good thing i get from it is vascuarity and apetite increase. other than that nothing significant. no major mass or strength gains.

**Da Bull** · 07-03-2004, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by x_muscle

i think EQ by itself is waste of money. i run EQ and only good thing i get from it is vascuarity and apetite increase. other than that nothing significant. no major mass or strength gains.

The only reason for me to run EQ is to lift my appetite....I have a hard time consuming the proper amount of cals ED.

**BigPoppaV** · 07-03-2004, 12:39 PM

Then it's obvious that you guys have done so many cycles that small amounts of just one substance don't do anything for you anymore.

**sp9** · 07-03-2004, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by BigPoppaV

Then it's obvious that you guys have done so many cycles that small amounts of just one substance don't do anything for you anymore.

You don't feel as if your natural test production has shut down while on EQ alone? That is what I hear from so many experienced people. That they will get shut down and you need to supplement test or you can have sexual side effects, mood problems, etc.

Do you have any testicular atrophy when on eq alone?

**kswat** · 07-03-2004, 01:01 PM

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I will get very large if I add prop to the cycle. I want some lean muscle w/o blowing up.

**sniper320** · 07-03-2004, 01:09 PM

Try adding 6 grams of tribulus ED. That should help with your sex drive.

**BigPoppaV** · 07-03-2004, 06:44 PM

I have slight testicular atrophy, but it's not affecting my performance in the bedroom at all, I can still get hard and last a while with my girl.

Originally Posted by scottp999

You don't feel as if your natural test production has shut down while on EQ alone? That is what I hear from so many experienced people. That they will get shut down and you need to supplement test or you can have sexual side effects, mood problems, etc.

Do you have any testicular atrophy when on eq alone?

**OkieCardinal** · 07-04-2004, 03:02 PM

How much test would be needed to avoid the negative sides of a primarly EQ cycle? Do you have run a real high dose of test or would somthing like 250 to 300 mgs/week of test help reduce/eliminate the negative sides of EQ? Just cursious

**BigPoppaV** · 07-04-2004, 03:50 PM

LOL, wtf are you talking about? I've yet to see anything negative about EQ, and considering the gains I'm making off of EQ I'll most likely never touch test again.

**OkieCardinal** · 07-04-2004, 04:12 PM

I guess I'm talking about all the people who have experienced negative sides from taking EQ only.

**SportsMedVIP** · 07-04-2004, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by BigPoppaV

LOL, wtf are you talking about? I've yet to see anything negative about EQ, and considering the gains I'm making off of EQ I'll most likely never touch test again.

Yeah, EQ alone great, gotcha. I think he was talking to everyone else. I don't know from experience but most say to run atleast the same dosage of test as you are running of EQ, or 100mg more. Just what I've learned, haven't tested it yet myself.

**BigPoppaV** · 07-04-2004, 05:42 PM

Different people, different bodies, different genetics.

**x_muscle** · 07-04-2004, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by BigPoppaV

LOL, wtf are you talking about? I've yet to see anything negative about EQ, and considering the gains I'm making off of EQ I'll most likely never touch test again.

you obviously dont know what your talking about. EQ is a mild androgen, and test is much more powerful than EQ. thats a well known fact. try running 500mg of test and 500mg of test, test will yield to better gains and strength.

**twosocks40** · 07-04-2004, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by x_muscle

try running 500mg of test and 500mg of test, test will yield to better gains and strength.

WELL yea! Put me in a fight with me and I will win. LOL.

-B

**SportsMedVIP** · 07-04-2004, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by twosocks40

WELL yea! Put me in a fight with me and I will win. LOL.

-B

My head hurts now. That makes no sense. Test and EQ are worlds of different.

**BigPoppaV** · 07-04-2004, 10:11 PM

First off, LOL on the mistake.. I'll assume you meat 500mg Test vs. EQ, I have done 500mg of test in the past (no pun intended) and I've simply made better gains (in my opinion) on EQ (factoring in that I'm not experiencing ANY of the sides I had with test, ie. mood swings, anger, acne, blood pressure, etc.) on test I gained 19 lean lbs. of muscle, On the EQ I've already gained 22 and I'm only on week 5 (to be fair, I was recovering from a flu when I started the EQ so about 8 lbs. of my usual weight came back as well)

Originally Posted by x_muscle

you obviously dont know what your talking about. EQ is a mild androgen, and test is much more powerful than EQ. thats a well known fact. try running 500mg of test and 500mg of test, test will yield to better gains and strength.

**OkieCardinal** · 07-05-2004, 02:22 AM

Anyone else have solid results, minus serious sides while on EQ only?? We are always hearin the negatives to doint this type of cycle without any Test, but how many have positive feedback?

**chemical** · 07-05-2004, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by kswat

Ok, I'm stupid for not taking any test with my eq400 ew cycle. I'm starting some Winnie at the end. Help my wife to love me. Kidding aside,
603
225
35yoa
600eq 2wks 400eq 10wks,
My pecker has already taken a nose dive. Is it possible to increase my libido with something other than test? I do not want to bloat.

I never heard of anything having trouble with eq only but its possible

Ok if its just woody your worried about you can do three things

1 take 40 mgof proviron a day , because its pretty androgen it will cause your libido to get huge however stopping the proviron may cause it to shrink again.

2 take some clomid this will give your own test production a boost again causing instant woodyfication again.

3 take a few shots of 2500 hcg this will also kickstart your own production again,

Good luck

JK
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**twosocks40** · 07-05-2004, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by ECoastVIP

My head hurts now. That makes no sense. Test and EQ are worlds of different.

Well, if you read what he wrote he said test vs. test. Hence my little joke which flew right over you.

-B

**Krunchtime** · 07-05-2004, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by kswat

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I will get very large if I add prop to the cycle. I want some lean muscle w/o blowing up.

prop leans you out pretty good..not much bloat

**sp9** · 07-05-2004, 10:50 AM

Have not done eq alone but have done test alone and right now test with eq. I can tell you that I like test but I like test and EQ much better. I will probably never run test again without EQ. Strength just keeps climbing and climbing. Veins popping out, staying lean even though using test enan. I can not knock EQ, I love it. This message just proves we are all different and we really need to take our time and figure out what works for us by starting out with a single compound and adding to it.