hey bros i tried europa deca 400 and sust 250 with good results i felt big...i was 6'7 273 with 18 arms now im on my second cycle and im switching to vet gear bc its cheaper im on a 15 week cycle of test cyp at 500mgwk/deca500mg wk and i used dbol to kick start my cycle and i havent been impressed with the results im starting wk 6 now which a good diet of 5200 caloires a day im currently 6'7 262 was i wrong for using vet gear i know its legit its all qv stuff, but i dont feel like i did the first cycle could it be bc vet gear sucks or am i just impatient...also has anyone used europa products? and how did you like your results???