is test en and clen a bad stack?

[footballplayer15]

i met up w\this dude in the gym and its something he suggested

[JDog3497]

hmm...it depends on what ur goals r. do u want to cut or bulk? if u wanna cut then id swith the test E for test prop. if u wanna bulk id take the clen outta there and add some deca. u basically have a bulker stacked with a cutter here. it all comes down to u makin up ur mind on wha tu wanna do.

[footballplayer15]

im just tryin to get stronger and a lil cut

[BWhitaker]

If you are planning on cutting and all you can get is test e then it really is fine. You will hold a little more water but that will come off. Test prop is a better choice, however, like i said test e is fine.

[footballplayer15]

how should i cycle this

[BWhitaker]

So you are trying to cut and gain strength but not necesarily gain muscle mass

[footballplayer15]

ya im tryin to get strong im already pretty big im just tryin to get strong

[BWhitaker]

If you cycle test prop, do 75mg ed
If you cycle test enanthate, do 250mg e4d
As far as clen, look up the clen handbook

Your diet is what will mostly determine your bulker or cutter. Since you want to cut, you need to get a good cutting diet in order. The gear will help, but the diet is what is primary

[footballplayer15]

thanks alot man....will the test en create a prob w\gyno

[BWhitaker]

make sure you get yourself some nolvadex and take it 10mg ed. I also like to take .25mg ldex.

Also make sure you have proper pct

[boistheman]

don't start the cycle until you have everything u need especially clomid, nolva, L-dex.

[UrbanLegend]

If you just want to loose a big of weight then just eat clean and eat a little less carbs, do more cardio, etc. Not that you couldn't incorporate clen, its just that IMO you don't need it unless you are looking to cut a lot of weight. Save some $....

[BWhitaker]

If you just want to loose a big of weight then just eat clean and eat a little less carbs, do more cardio, etc. Not that you couldn't incorporate clen, its just that IMO you don't need it unless you are looking to cut a lot of weight. Save some $....

Many people just would rather take clen than and eca.