cycle

[Essy]

Starting my cycle next week as long as my anti e's come in this week. I want to make sure it looks good before I start.

I will be running:
Fina 75mg ed weeks 1-8
Winny 100 mg ed weeks 3-8
Prop 100 mg ed weeks 1-8
Bromo 2.5 ed
nolva - not sure \
Arimadex- Not sure / will be taking both just not sure on what dosage yet

Anybody have any suggestions on what to take to keep liver and kidnies clean?

[Tryin2getHUGE]

Nolva - 20mg ED
Milk thistle - 1000mg ED liver
l-dex - .25mg ED

Too much winny. 50mg ED is pleanty. JMO

[juiceinthehood]

liver - milk thistle tylers liver detox kidneys cranberry juice cranberry extract pills
cutting r we
also run b-6 with this cycle

[Essy]

I didnt think I need b-6 because I am taking bromo. I was told If I ran 100mg I would get much better results.

[w_rballs]

throw the b-6 in just to be safe.

[JDog3497]

looks ok, but id do it this:
prop: 100mg ed weeks 1-8
fina: 75mg ed weeks 1-8
winni: 50mg ed weeks 3-8
nolva: 10mg ed
ldex: 0.25mg ed
vitamin b 200mg ed
milk thistle - 1000mg ed
PCT
day 1: clomid 300mg, nolva 10mg, ldex 0.25mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle 1000mg ed
day 2-28: clomid 100mg, nolva 10mg, ldex 10mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle 1000mg ed
day 29-35: nolva 10mg, ldex 0.25mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle - 1000mg ed
vitamin b keeps prolactin levels down from the fina.
milk thistle for the liver.
good luck bro!

[KAEW44]

although mil thistle really helps the liver, odesnt it hinder the effectiveness of orals???
would tking milk thistle before and after the cycle be better in terms of gains?

[Consistency]

i would run the prop 1 week past the fina to help with recovery

[Essy]

Why winny only 50mgs and not 100?

looks ok, but id do it this:
prop: 100mg ed weeks 1-8
fina: 75mg ed weeks 1-8
winni: 50mg ed weeks 3-8
nolva: 10mg ed
ldex: 0.25mg ed
vitamin b 200mg ed
milk thistle - 1000mg ed
PCT
day 1: clomid 300mg, nolva 10mg, ldex 0.25mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle 1000mg ed
day 2-28: clomid 100mg, nolva 10mg, ldex 10mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle 1000mg ed
day 29-35: nolva 10mg, ldex 0.25mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle - 1000mg ed
vitamin b keeps prolactin levels down from the fina.
milk thistle for the liver.
good luck bro!

[Lozgod]

although mil thistle really helps the liver, odesnt it hinder the effectiveness of orals???
would tking milk thistle before and after the cycle be better in terms of gains?

Milk Thistle doesn't affect gains. Also I would add Cranberry Extract and Uva Ursi. They both are good for the kidneys. Uva Ursi is the sh!t.

---Medicinal Action and Uses---In consequence of the powerful astringency of theleaves, Uva-Ursi has a place not only in all the old herbals, but also in the modern Pharmacopoeias. There are records that it was used in the thirteenth century by the Welsh 'Physicians of Myddfai.' It was described by Clusius in 1601, and recommended for medicinal use in 1763 by Gerhard of Berlin and others. It had a place in the London Pharmacopoeia for the first time in 1788, though was probably in use long before. It is official in nearly all Pharmacopceias, some of which use the name Arbutus.

The usual form of administration is in the form of an infusion, which has a soothing as well as an astringent effect and marked diuretic action. Of great value in diseases of the bladder and kidneys, strengthening and imparting tone to the urinary passages. The diuretic action is due to the glucoside Arbutin, which is largely absorbed unchanged and is excreted by the kidneys. During its excretion, Arbutin exercises an antiseptic effect on the urinary mucous membrane: Bearberry leaves are, therefore, used in inflammatory diseases of the urinary tract, urethritis, cystisis, etc.

[Essy]

Can anyone answer me why they think I should only do 50mg winny rather then the 100mg?

[juiceinthehood]

winny is rough on the joints bro use 60mg ed (420mg wk.) along with glucosamine for joint pain u will get it doing 100mg winni ed will kill your joints and u wont be able to train

[ODC0717]

winny is rough on the joints bro use 60mg ed (420mg wk.) along with glucosamine for joint pain u will get it doing 100mg winni ed will kill your joints and u wont be able to train

Winny is known for accelerating hair loss in those who are pedisposed to it. At 100mg ed you will definitley get some joint problems and maybe some hair in your hands when you're showering. Also, IMO, 100mg would just be too much stress on the liver and kidnies.

[Lozgod]

100 is overkill IMO.

[hung-solo]

drink a **** load of water too. 1.5-2.5 gallons a day!

[Essy]

Thats a *****. I was looking foward to running 100mg winny and I already bought it. Oh well.

[JohnDoe1234]

I would extend the Prop and the Tren to at least 10 weeks. IMO 8 weeks is not long enough.

[JohnDoe1234]

Also, if you have the Bromo on hand already thats fine, but if you dont develop any progestorone related gyno dont bother taking it.

[Essy]

I have heard that bromo is good to take because it helps get you looking hard. I think I read it on this site, I could be wrong though. Is it ok to run the prop ed? I have gyno as it is I was going to run it so I make sure I get gyno. Once you have gyno you cant get rid of it, so why would I wait to get it then take it?

Also, if you have the Bromo on hand already thats fine, but if you dont develop any progestorone related gyno dont bother taking it.

[w_rballs]

I have heard that bromo is good to take because it helps get you looking hard. I think I read it on this site, I could be wrong though. Is it ok to run the prop ed? I have gyno as it is I was going to run it so I make sure I get gyno. Once you have gyno you cant get rid of it, so why would I wait to get it then take it?

i run my prop ED. and yes take the bromo from the start. better safe then sorry.

[Essy]

I will def. do that

[w_rballs]

are u gonna use b-6 also? and nolva for the test?

[Essy]

ya will be taking b-6 nolva and a-dex

[w_rballs]

whats the whole cycle lok like?

[Essy]

Look at the first post.

[w_rballs]

extend the prop to 10 weeks. u will like it better. and u are cutting the winny in half correct?

[Essy]

Yes, I might take 60-75mgs every day or is that still to much and I should just stick with 50mgs ed. Would it make a difference if I did 100mgs eod rather then 50mg ed. If so, why?

[Essy]

I think I will def. be taking 50mgs, thank you for you help guys.

[Essy]

I dont have l-dex, I have arimaxy(pills). What do I run of those. Has anyone hear of purple 50mg nolvadex ?

looks ok, but id do it this:
prop: 100mg ed weeks 1-8
fina: 75mg ed weeks 1-8
winni: 50mg ed weeks 3-8
nolva: 10mg ed
ldex: 0.25mg ed
vitamin b 200mg ed
milk thistle - 1000mg ed
PCT
day 1: clomid 300mg, nolva 10mg, ldex 0.25mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle 1000mg ed
day 2-28: clomid 100mg, nolva 10mg, ldex 10mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle 1000mg ed
day 29-35: nolva 10mg, ldex 0.25mg, vit b 200mg, milk thistle - 1000mg ed
vitamin b keeps prolactin levels down from the fina.
milk thistle for the liver.
good luck bro!

[w_rballs]

u want to take .25 mg a day. i think the pills are 1 mg each so a 1/4 of a pill. i have heard of 40mg nolvadex pills but not 50 mg

[nsb1215]

50 mg nolvas are chinese generics. most likeky mzl

[Essy]

For the arimadex can I take .5 every other day? The pills are so small that it would be almost impossible to take .25 ed.