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    Friend in hospital after Anavar only cycle

    My friend was on his 5th week of Anavar only cycle, having great gains. 2 days ago he had extreme stomach pains, and was rushed to the hospital. They Dr said is pancreas enzymes were way high as well as his liver enzymes. He was taking 40 mg of var ed, as well as 200 mg of protien a day, and 600 mg milk thistle. He didnt tell the DR he was juicing, he just told him he was taking a high amount of protien, he was also under a great deal of stress, bc his gf is a dirty whore. The Dr said it was bc a high amout of stress and too much protien. But its got to be the var right? BTW it was underground liquid var. And he hadn't drank at all while on. What do you think?
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    Give initials of Ug lab Bro. Sounds like Dbol to me. Anavar is very mild and IMO would not create a high level of enzyme stress. Unless the Doctor is overexagerating cuz he could tell your friend was juicing to put a scare in him. Either way "stress" is a key factor in bodybuilding and life. The human body's worst enemy is stress. Stress is the leading cause of depression....cancer...imune deficiency...and other diseases.

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    Good call, definitly could of gotten dbol instead of var.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbigdog69
    Give initials of Ug lab Bro. Sounds like Dbol to me. Anavar is very mild and IMO would not create a high level of enzyme stress. Unless the Doctor is overexagerating cuz he could tell your friend was juicing to put a scare in him. Either way "stress" is a key factor in bodybuilding and life. The human body's worst enemy is stress. Stress is the leading cause of depression....cancer...imune deficiency...and other diseases.

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    i'd bet it was SL... i know he makes liquid var.

    and i agree with jbigdog... i dont think the anavar was the cause of your friend's problems.

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    What does Ug mean anyway..?

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    it was made by carbon...

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    not so sure it was dbol tho, he was getting lean gains with no gyno or water retention, could it possibly be just him responding bad to it/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    it was made by carbon...
    FYI, Carbon's var tested out 25% underdosed. So he was only taking 30mg ED.

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    is there somewhere where you can see how different ugl's stuff tested out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duma
    is there somewhere where you can see how different ugl's stuff tested out?
    yeah its called the search button

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duma
    is there somewhere where you can see how different ugl's stuff tested out?
    Not a single place, no. You have to look around to find various lab reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duma
    is there somewhere where you can see how different ugl's stuff tested out?

    There is some guys in canada that are putting together a lab and website that will be a pay site that will have the results of everyones products posted on it.

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    Usually protein intake doesnt have an effect on the liver or pancreas, it affects the kidneys with high BUN levels.

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    UG=under ground

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    At 200g protein would not cause that to my knowledge. If your buddy was not drinking enough fluids his pancreas still produce enzymes and alot I might add. IF there is not enough water it will go high & produce symptoms. In this case stomach pains.

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    Actually, high protein diets are tough on the liver, and the carbs help the liver to recuperate....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bor
    Actually, high protein diets are tough on the liver, and the carbs help the liver to recuperate....
    200g of protein is high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    200g of protein is high?
    not at all, its minimum if you ask me

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    Quote Originally Posted by medic23
    not at all, its minimum if you ask me
    Agreed, absolute minimum. But I weight in at 260lbs right now. Maybe he's more in the 115lbs range. Then 200 would be a decent protein intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    200g of protein is high?

    PFT, i brush my teeth with more than that in the morning.

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    not drinking enough water

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    It would be interesting to get a lab test done on that anavar your friend was taking. Side effects like that with good oxandrolone are unheard of. There must have been some other shady compound/s involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter
    he was also under a great deal of stress, bc his gf is a dirty whore.


    That explains his problems right there

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    Usualsuspect you beat me to it.

    That is exactly why he is half dead, the girlfriend not the juice!!!

    Anavar is supposed to be a very safe drug to use... He should have told the doctors aswell, you ALWAYS be honest and upfront with the docs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troyboy
    He should have told the doctors aswell, you ALWAYS be honest and upfront with the docs.
    Yeah, what if they prescribed him something that reacted to the compounds he's taking already? Then what would he do? Tell them everything, especially if you think it's the cause of your symptoms. Depending on what blood work he did I'm suprised it wasn't blatanly obvious to the doctor that he was using steroids. Maybe he's just not familiar though.

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    of course the doctor is going to think your liver enzymes are the problem if he does not know you are juicing, That is not why your friend is sick, your liver enzymes are high for anyone who takes oral steroids, don't go blaming anavar for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWeightBaby
    of course the doctor is going to think your liver enzymes are the problem if he does not know you are juicing, That is not why your friend is sick, your liver enzymes are high for anyone who takes oral steroids, don't go blaming anavar for it.
    Another good albeit slightly vailed point. If he doesn't know he's juicing of course he'll see elavated liver values as a source of the problem. Even if it's completey unrelated and he has a tumor that's the source of his troubles. He could stop diagnosis right there because he thinks he has it. He could end up with a script for high dosage Milk Thistle when he needs chemo therapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECoastVIP
    Another good albeit slightly vailed point. If he doesn't know he's juicing of course he'll see elavated liver values as a source of the problem. Even if it's completey unrelated and he has a tumor that's the source of his troubles. He could stop diagnosis right there because he thinks he has it. He could end up with a script for high dosage Milk Thistle when he needs chemo therapy.
    This same thing happened to my friend the last week of his first cycle bc he was having bowel problems, the doctor checked his liver enzymes and freaked out about it, bc he had no idea he was juicing.

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    I don't think that you friend get sick from anavar or protein. May be he had bad health? It is really wise to check your health before any cycle, even small one.

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