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07-18-2004, 08:51 AM #1Associate Member
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wanna do short cycle without test...plz read
my big cycle, consisting of test prop and eq and winny/fina (have not decided yet). the cycle will begin in september. meanwhile, i am heading up north (canada) camping/fishing/partying for a week, early augast! ive been off of a cycle for about 7-8 weeks, and right now i would love to dive in a cycle to harden up and thicken the quality muscle i am carrying right now (195 pounds, 11% fat maximum, 5'8 hight). what i have right now that i could use for the cycle is fina, proviron , winny tabs and some winny depot. i was thinking to do 80mg fina eod + 25mg proviron pd. im trying real hard to try to find some test without having to order online coz i would have to wait for the shipment...but assuming i wont find any for this short cycle (6-8 weeks). could i see any additional benefits from this cycle. i will use the winny depots too at 50mg eod....should i add that? should i even do this cycle?
Last edited by redwizza; 07-18-2004 at 09:00 AM.
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07-18-2004, 08:58 AM #2
IMO...very poor idea..just wait til Sept.Otherwise it will be mid to late october til you'll start your good cycle
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07-18-2004, 09:00 AM #3Originally Posted by redwizza
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07-18-2004, 09:06 AM #4Associate Member
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Originally Posted by BeefCakeStewLast edited by redwizza; 07-18-2004 at 09:09 AM.
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07-18-2004, 09:08 AM #5Originally Posted by BeefCakeStew
I disagree. However, that is a WHOLE can of worms I don't want to open. I don't believe "short" cycles are a good idea though. I would save your stuff for later.
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07-18-2004, 09:13 AM #6Associate Member
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Originally Posted by twosocks40
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07-18-2004, 09:15 AM #7
lol bad idea bro tren shuts u down HARD
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07-18-2004, 09:21 AM #8Originally Posted by twosocks40
Using Test more or less than other AS ASS???
Any input? But post it there because I dont mean to hijack.
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07-18-2004, 09:31 AM #9Originally Posted by BeefCakeStew
An analogy: Kinda like shutting off the sun outside and then replacing it with dim, green ambient, flourcent lighting... sure you can still see and carry about your business - but the natural sunlight makes you feel better and makes it easier to see and generally more comfortable
A long answer: Testosterone is the endogenous androgen in the body – it flows through your veins every day of your life. It is responsible for many bodily processes. Elevated testosterone levels can improve the overall psychological state, optimize libido and sexual function, as well as create a more anabolic environment for tissue growth. Normal ranges for hormone replacement therapy are around 60-100mg of testosterone enanthate per week. High doses (over 300mg per week) are frequently used by athletes to improve the anabolic effects of the androgen; resulting in further muscular hypertrophy. The Hypothalamic/Pituitary/Testicular Axis will inhibit its own androgen production when it recognizes exogenous support. Anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) cycles lacking testosterone can cause problems for the athlete. Using a progestin (for example, nandrolone or trenbolone ) can cause a build up of progesterone – which can result in poor disposition and lack of sexual desire in the absence of testosterone. For this reason, even at simple replacement doses, testosterone should be the base of any AAS cycle.
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07-18-2004, 09:34 AM #10Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Warrior
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07-18-2004, 09:41 AM #11Originally Posted by Warrior
Thank, thats what i was leaning toward with the post. Its good to finally hear a response. Your the Man Warrior. And you sold Rewizza in the process. Wow
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07-18-2004, 09:55 AM #12Associate Member
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just wanna mention it again.....dang im ripped
deca is the $hit i must say, but bloats me like a mofo.
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07-19-2004, 07:50 PM #13
OK so, is low sex drive the only side of not having test in your cycle? I'll admit, doing cycles without test does lower my sex a drive a little but it doesn't go away. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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07-19-2004, 07:58 PM #14Originally Posted by twosocks40
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07-20-2004, 02:30 AM #15New Member
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Have done a few cycles with out test... huge mistake. Trust me, test is king.
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07-20-2004, 08:13 AM #16Anabolic Member
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