Can I Do Anything Without Having The Gyno Surgery (Look At Picture)

**thepremier** · 08-07-2004, 06:19 PM

Does anybody know if I can help decrease the presence of gyno without having the surgery?

**dive_kid** · 08-07-2004, 06:20 PM

I think that might be the only option

**Lozgod** · 08-07-2004, 06:27 PM

Yeah that is some bad gyno. It is almost borderline porn, I think you need the surgery. Their is something called Gynogone that IP makes but I am aware of zero proof that this works.

**crj900** · 08-07-2004, 06:29 PM

what did you do? what was your cycle? did you run pct?

**Badgerman** · 08-07-2004, 06:29 PM

Loz....could you pm me a full size of the girls.....I just love that pic

**kingofmasters** · 08-07-2004, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lozgod

Yeah that is some bad gyno. It is almost borderline porn, I think you need the surgery. Their is something called Gynogone that IP makes but I am aware of zero proof that this works.

it works, but not in such a clear and oviously evoluted case...

Also---> This probably isn't Puberty-gyno!
You must have probably done a bad steroid -cycle...

Correct me if I am wrong.!

**thepremier** · 08-07-2004, 06:31 PM

Yup, that's what happened, wasn't informed about PCT

**weightshead** · 08-07-2004, 06:35 PM

anyone know of a link to pictures of gyno from steroid abuse . id be interested in knowing the full range of gyno, from very mild to extreme.... just curious as i couldnt find anything similar here on AR

**Dally** · 08-07-2004, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by thepremier

Yup, that's what happened, wasn't informed about PCT

Bro, if I can say anything .. I just wanna say I feel for yah man.

From one dude to another, do what you gotta do if it makes you feel better in anyway. I wish yah the best man.

LORDBLiTZ · 08-07-2004, 06:39 PM

http://gynecomastiaexpert.com/gyno_m...ia_vh1BWM.html

**mikeyb** · 08-07-2004, 07:18 PM

interesting video, i saw parts of that on vh1

**Oakley** · 08-07-2004, 07:42 PM

omg that sux dude. this is a good lesson for the newbies including me

**Anhydro78** · 08-07-2004, 08:03 PM

could you give an example of the cycles that you did that made this happen??

**thepremier** · 08-07-2004, 08:11 PM

i was on a cycle of anavar for 4 weeks and then fina & winstrol for 8 weeks

**Dally** · 08-07-2004, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by thepremier

i was on a cycle of anavar for 4 weeks and then fina & winstrol for 8 weeks

sides were bad.. but how was the wang?

sorry bro .. just wonderin

**bornbad71** · 08-07-2004, 08:19 PM

That does look pretty bad bro...you just may need the surgery. Good luck with whatever it is you decide.

Obviously you didn't know about having anti-e's on hand and from what you stated above pct either...hopefully that pic will allow some newbies to gear see that sides are real and can happen...sorry it's at your expence bro.

**thepremier** · 08-07-2004, 08:51 PM

does anybody know a ballpark figure of how much the surgery would cost me?

**thepremier** · 08-07-2004, 08:52 PM

everything else was straight, didn't really mess with my libido

LORDBLiTZ · 08-07-2004, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by thepremier

does anybody know a ballpark figure of how much the surgery would cost me?

Under 5k

**thepremier** · 08-07-2004, 10:22 PM

Anybody know of a way that I could get my insurance to cover the surgery?

**mass junkie** · 08-07-2004, 10:50 PM

Dam dude I really feel for ya....well at least after you have the surgery you will never have to worry about gyno again

**AandF6969** · 08-07-2004, 10:55 PM

**** that sucks

**thepremier** · 08-08-2004, 12:01 AM

Yeah, It does. I wasn't aware of PCT nobody told me, but there's absolutely nothing that I can do to minimize it even a little bit? I'd like to try stuff before I have to put down 5,000 dollars to go under the knife

LORDBLiTZ · 08-08-2004, 12:20 AM

I'd try femara.

**OzPower** · 08-08-2004, 02:08 AM

Surgery bro, mine werent as bad, but yeah! Surgery!

**thepremier** · 08-08-2004, 02:16 AM

Did you have the surgery bro?

PT · 08-08-2004, 03:43 AM

if your insurance comp. knows that it is from steroid use then they might not want to pay for it. but im pretty sury that insurance should pay for the surgery. if not it will probably be somewhere around a $10,000 process.

**Toenail Juice Z** · 08-08-2004, 04:39 AM

I got moderate gyno in my right tit. I keep it under control, but it will never dissapear unless I have surgery.

**SpeedDemon** · 08-08-2004, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Toenail Juice Z

I got moderate gyno in my right tit. I keep it under control, but it will never dissapear unless I have surgery.

I heard 40 mg of Nolva for 3 months should get rid of mild/moderate cases of gyno in 80% of the cases. True??

**Toenail Juice Z** · 08-08-2004, 08:32 AM

I hope it's true. I've never done nolva for 3 months

**jerseyboy** · 08-08-2004, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by thepremier

does anybody know a ballpark figure of how much the surgery would cost me?

The surgery cost me 3K because the insurance co. said it was for cosmetic purposes. Insurance companies are the most useless thing you could ever spend money on.

**thepremier** · 08-08-2004, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by jerseyboy

The surgery cost me 3K because the insurance co. said it was for cosmetic purposes. Insurance companies are the most useless thing you could ever spend money on.

So how long did it take before you were able to get back to doing your daily tasks again? Did it turn out successful? Just want to know a little bit about the whole proccess

**jerseyboy** · 08-08-2004, 08:56 AM

Check your PM's

**MrDezel** · 08-08-2004, 09:45 AM

I feel your pain bro. I have some gyno that is pretty close to yours but mine is from puberty.

I have tried everything with no luck I'm sorry to say. From Andractim to Nolva fpr 3 months.

Good luck tho bro.

**thepremier** · 08-08-2004, 09:45 AM

bunp

**Paingain** · 08-08-2004, 11:17 AM

That pic is great jerk off material, j/k, I feel your pain man, good luck with that

**RussianVodka** · 08-09-2004, 04:55 PM

You looks pretty bad bro. Looks like you do need surgery.

**MrDezel** · 08-09-2004, 05:37 PM

whats ur bf%?

**Navarone** · 08-09-2004, 07:08 PM

Sorry to see your situation kid but try not to get too down about it. I'm no expert but to me it looks probable you'll need surgery to rectify it. Don't worry too much, it ain't as bad as it sounds.

I had natural gyno since I was a teenager & know only too well how it makes you feel. I'm 28 and I let it affect my whole way of life for pretty much ten years. I used to wear baggy clothes and hide my body away from everyone. I had absolutely no self-confidence in my appearance & if that sounds a bit melodramatic, try living with it for ten years.
So, last year I finally did something about it.
I thought; 'F**k this, what's a couple of grand compared to my self-confidence & happiness?' So I went & saw a private plastic surgeon and within a few weeks I had completely solved a problem I thought insurmountable for years. Trust me, the whole process is very straight forward and not nearly as bad as it's made out to be.
The op & immediate post-op doesn't hurt a bit. Anaesthetic + sedative means you'll barely remember any of it, I don't remember ANY of the op itself. Post op is pretty uncomfortable for about three or four days, but no real pain (unless you forget and roll onto your stomach - you'll remember about 0.3 seconds & several expletives later!) The worst part is changing the bandages as they are soaked in saline which leaks from the incisions for about 36 hours after, and is initially blood red & stinks! I was back to work four days later. You won't be able to do much, if any, upper body for about 4 - 6 weeks and will still be sore to the touch for a couple of months after that. Took me about 3 - 4 months to see a big improvement as the swelling is localised and quite persistent. It takes about 6 months to see a final result.

All in all, if that's what you decide to do, go for it. Otherwise you'll simply have to learn to live with it & I think you'll find that difficult.

BTW, as far as my experience goes, there are no drugs that effectively remove gyno once it's formed into fibrous tissue. Maybe yours hasn't yet so at least have a consultation with a doc.

As far as cost goes, mine was £2400 (about $4400) and I think it's worth double that.
If any bro's are reading this in the UK, forget the NHS - unless they keep your knees warm they don't want to know.

Good luck either way, if you have any questions please ask.