Clen/T3/Keto for cutting after cycle

**F-Genetics** · 03-23-2011, 11:35 AM

How long after my cycle should I wait to use Clen /T3/keto to cut? This was more of a lean gaining cycle for me. I have read that I should wait until after finishing my PCT to start cutting. And others have said to start cutting when starting my PCT because it was not a bulking cycle. So, thoughts would be helpful. As I would like a direct situation relevant answer and not a do more research, because I have and that is why I am asking. I am also wanting to get ripped by the end of June if possible.
-My cylce ends in just over two weeks.
I am 33, about 16% BF and I hit the gym 6x's/wk.
M-Chest
T-Back
W-Hamstrings/calves
TH-Biceps/triceps
F-Shoulders
S-Quads/calves again
Cardio----Before my cycle I was doing 30-45 minutes rowing in the morning with only a PWO drink so I did not go catabolic. Then after weights in the evening I was doing another 30-45 min of treadmill or stair climber while controlling my heart rate.
I am not against modifying the routine, I just am unable to run/ long story. So I don't mind adding in swimming or other methods as well.
I want to get in the best shape I have ever been in. Plus my girlfriend will not have seen me in 3 months by that time. So I would like to really surprise her...
Thanks Guys

**F-Genetics** · 03-23-2011, 06:00 PM

Wow, no ideas...? Come on guys.

**Bulkn** · 03-23-2011, 08:28 PM

I would wait a couple weeks after PCT. If you cut while in PCT you will lose most yor gains..

**F-Genetics** · 03-23-2011, 08:32 PM

I had heard that, but I also had seen the argument that if you were trying a lean mass cycle it is not a bad thing either...Hmm food for thought..

**X83** · 03-23-2011, 08:59 PM

What are you using on the cycle?

**Bulkn** · 03-23-2011, 11:08 PM

And what is your PCT? If you keep your calories the same you might not lose much but if you drop them I think you will.

**F-Genetics** · 03-23-2011, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by X83

What are you using on the cycle?

~wks 1-4 Dbol 30mgs
~wks 1-8 Sustanon 500 mgs
~HCG 250 I.U.'s 3 x's wk

**F-Genetics** · 03-23-2011, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bulkn

And what is your PCT? If you keep your calories the same you might not lose much but if you drop them I think you will.

Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
HCG 500-1000 I.U.'s EOD up until 4 days prior to start of PCT

**The Titan99** · 03-24-2011, 12:18 AM

I like to use Clen in PCT as it allows me to eat a ton of food (protein) to hang onto gains without adding too much body fat. The T3 at higher doses saps my energy too much as it is, I couldn't imagine how much it would suck post cycle (which is why I've never done it.).

**charliemurphy229** · 03-24-2011, 12:44 AM

yea maybe clen during your pct, but definitely not t3.

**F-Genetics** · 03-24-2011, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by charliemurphy229

yea maybe clen during your pct, but definitely not t3.

Why not the T3?

**Hunter Killer** · 03-24-2011, 12:27 PM

T3 is known to be catabolic

**F-Genetics** · 03-24-2011, 05:49 PM

well, maybe just the clen and keto then...

**The Titan99** · 03-25-2011, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by F-Genetics

Why not the T3?

The T3 is the thing to use to go from 5% to 3% pre contest, but I've used it and it was hurting my gains. Clen , diet and cardio is all 95% of us need to achieve our goals. Mt 2 cents...

**F-Genetics** · 03-25-2011, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

The T3 is the thing to use to go from 5% to 3% pre contest, but I've used it and it was hurting my gains. Clen, diet and cardio is all 95% of us need to achieve our goals. Mt 2 cents...

Hey I appreciate your .02 cents...They are worth more than mine because you at least have experience with it. I think Clen , keto diet and cardio are going to be the ticket for me to get down to 12%. I should do well with it. Because just using diet and cardio, I lost 42 lbs in 3 and a half months a ways back. So I know my system responds well.

**The Titan99** · 03-27-2011, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by F-Genetics

Hey I appreciate your .02 cents...They are worth more than mine because you at least have experience with it. I think Clen, keto diet and cardio are going to be the ticket for me to get down to 12%. I should do well with it. Because just using diet and cardio, I lost 42 lbs in 3 and a half months a ways back. So I know my system responds well.

12% with a clean diet and cardio is completely doable.