Winstrol and Dianabol

**t1murph1** · 08-11-2004, 07:38 AM

Can anyone give me their opinion on how well a a winstrol /dbol stack would work for strength gains and permanent mass. My goal is to gain strength and some mass, however I want to make sure it is quality lasting mass. Thanks.

**kronik** · 08-11-2004, 07:39 AM

It sucks ass...oral only

**Maraxus** · 08-11-2004, 07:55 AM

Garbage bro, I would like into a Test based cycle. Also how old are you and what are your stats?

**thejuiceisloose** · 08-11-2004, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by t1murph1

Can anyone give me their opinion on how well a a winstrol/dbol stack would work for strength gains and permanent mass. My goal is to gain strength and some mass, however I want to make sure it is quality lasting mass. Thanks.

Use Test as a base then throw in some d-bol & winny, now you have a cycle.

**fitnessNY** · 08-11-2004, 08:16 AM

Bye - Bye Liver.....

You need test as a base for ALL cycles.

**t1murph1** · 08-11-2004, 08:35 AM

i see...the reason I was leaning towards oral only is because I am a little nervous about recieving vials and syringes through the mail(i'm a first time user, never bought before). I am 21 years old, 6'1" 197 9% bf, been lifting for 7 or 8 years, lifting seriously for 4 years. Can someone tell me specifically what type of test to add in there? and how safe is it all?

**kronik** · 08-11-2004, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by t1murph1

i see...the reason I was leaning towards oral only is because I am a little nervous about recieving vials and syringes through the mail(i'm a first time user, never bought before). I am 21 years old, 6'1" 197 9% bf, been lifting for 7 or 8 years, lifting seriously for 4 years. Can someone tell me specifically what type of test to add in there? and how safe is it all?

I suggest you look into a test e or test cyp cycle, that way injections are only twice a week...

**promiscio** · 08-11-2004, 12:19 PM

I would also use injected DBOL and oral winny or vice versa. Your liver will thank you...

**builtthekid** · 08-11-2004, 12:20 PM

Test and only test for the first cycle thats what most
senior members will tell u.

**beavertrap** · 08-11-2004, 03:45 PM

Don't take this oral stack weather it is with or without test. Both are 17aa (toxic to your liver). Don't be afraid of ordering syringes. There are domestic sources you can order from. Have is shipped seperate from your gear. Maybe consider running test enan at 500mg per wk, deca at 400mg per wk, and winny orals at 50mg per day for the last six weeks of your cycle with nolva, and proper pct. The results will make you a happy camper. Oh...by the way, be careful with oral winny. They give me terrible gas. My wife is fed up with dutch ovens.