Can I get a final answer?

**dannyboy62682** · 08-13-2004, 09:29 PM

whats up bro's. Need a bit of help cause frankly I am sick of researching and coming up with two different answers. I know this has been ask sooooo many times and everytime its the same thing, "many different answers". In a few weeks I will be running:

500mg deca 1-10wk
600mg test 1-12wk

My face blows up like a balloon, so what I am seeing the best ways to hide this is to either go with nolvadex or proviron . Well as I read more, it seems nolvadex is better to fight gyno which I am not prone too, but at the same rate I see that it does help fight water bloat. Reading about proviron, 25mg in the am and 25mg in the pm is another way to fight it. So what I am asking is should I run both of these or just the proviron. After all my researching I am still stuck on what to get. I am going to try a few new easy methods that i slacked off on in the past. Drink more water and watch the sodium intake. Any help would be great fellas!

**dannyboy62682** · 08-13-2004, 11:04 PM

I also researched about L-dex, but still torn on my options........

**lukeduke01** · 08-13-2004, 11:12 PM

From what ive read, people seemed to have good success running both nolva and proviron so I wouldnt see a proble with this. But I havent done this myself. As for the deca gyno, the nolva and proviron are going to do nothing since progesterone is the problem. So get some B6

**dannyboy62682** · 08-14-2004, 09:30 AM

awesome, I guess I will run both at the same time. Now for the proviron , should I run it at 50mg a day or just 25mg. If the bloat gets back I could bump it to 50mg. Also could i run .25 of l-dex with this. Would it do anything to hender my gains taking all three of these at the same time.

**w_rballs** · 08-14-2004, 09:45 AM

actually only run the proviron 25mg ED. but if u bloat alot liek me, look into femara. that stuff is the ****. im dry as a bone running 1.5g of test a week. also your pct times dont line up correctly. depending on what type of test u are taking if it is enanthate u have to run it 1 week longer than deca . if it is cyp u run it 3 days longer than deca. also run the deca longer. deca should be run a mimimum of 12 weeks IMO

**detroit** · 08-14-2004, 10:25 AM

I would get Femara or Ldex for bloat and Nolva for gyno. I normally take .25ml of Ldex ED and 10mg Nolva ED during my cycles and i never have any noticable bloat or gyno. Each person is different, you will find out what dosages you would need. Good luck with your cycle.

**dannyboy62682** · 08-15-2004, 09:32 AM

so the nolva is more for the gyno....right?

**dieseL atC** · 08-15-2004, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by dannyboy62682

so the nolva is more for the gyno....right?

If you don't want any water retention, and you aren't prone to gyno. This will work wonders..

Femara @ 1.25mg eod
Nolva @ 10mg ed
B6 @ 200mg ed

That will keep gyno at bay and will keep you nice and dry

**dieseL atC** · 08-15-2004, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by w_rballs

actually only run the proviron 25mg ED. but if u bloat alot liek me, look into femara. that stuff is the ****. im dry as a bone running 1.5g of test a week. also your pct times dont line up correctly. depending on what type of test u are taking if it is enanthate u have to run it 1 week longer than deca. if it is cyp u run it 3 days longer than deca. also run the deca longer. deca should be run a mimimum of 12 weeks IMO

I think he is fine, dropping the deca 1 week early will make recovery a little easier.. Deca is good at 10 weeks too IMO..