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08-16-2004, 05:56 AM #1Associate Member
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Nolva throughout cycle...do i have this right?
Hi folks, i am new to the boards. So, hello to everyone.
Ok, i see many people recommending getting on nolva through out a cycle.
Now, why should one do this if he/she sees no signs of gyno? Doesnt that just interfer with your gains?
The only reason i can come up with is because it will keep away from water retention during cycle, therefore at the end of the cycle, what you gained is what you get...and you dont get any of the "i gained 30 lbs but lost 15 lbs of water". Instead, going on Nolva, one would have just gained 15 lbs in the first place and not lost any weight.
Is this right idea as far as why people recommend Nolva or am i way off base? Thank you.
Reel
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08-16-2004, 06:05 AM #2
I recommend the use of Nolva because it's ability to mimic estrogen in the liver which will help keep lipids stable....... The other reasons are to keep receptors clear from estrogen that can cause gyno, and edema (water retention).
Best is to add and AI like femera or l-dex to the mix with nolva.
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08-16-2004, 09:58 AM #3Associate Member
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Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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08-16-2004, 10:01 AM #4
need some stats bro,
age, height/weight, what you cycling with, what cycle is this . . . etc
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08-16-2004, 10:36 AM #5
Nolva doesn't hinder gains unless you feel the water weight you would gainn without nolva are gains.
I start anti-e's 2 weeks prior to my cycles so that blood levels can be built
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08-16-2004, 10:46 AM #6Associate Member
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Originally Posted by TheMudMan
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08-16-2004, 11:06 AM #7
I would run 10mg Nolva, .25mg L-dex, 200mg Vitamin B6
If I didn't have an AI like L-dex or femera I would then run 20mg Nolva, and 200mg B6
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08-16-2004, 12:05 PM #8Member
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hey i have a question also. how fast does nolva.(tamoxiphen) kicks in???
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08-16-2004, 12:06 PM #9Member
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should i really take it before OR can i just take it since i start my cycle???
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08-16-2004, 12:18 PM #10Member
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08-16-2004, 12:19 PM #11Originally Posted by gio86
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08-16-2004, 12:51 PM #12Associate Member
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Hey Gio86..why you highjacking my thread punk? haha, jk bro.
Oh ya..stats:
5'8"
170 lbs
~9%
23 yrs old
Natural
first cycle ever next week:
1-10 500mg/wk
nolva on hand incase
pct:
Clomid therapy (you know, day 1, 2-11, 12-28)
I am just asking because some people tell me that if i take nolva, it can conflict with some of the gains. therefore, ONLY take it if you get symtpoms of gyno. What do you say?
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08-16-2004, 02:45 PM #13Associate Member
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anyone?
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08-16-2004, 03:42 PM #14Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
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08-16-2004, 03:56 PM #15Respected Member
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You will only hinder gains from estrogen supression when administering enough anti-e's, or a strong enough AI to inhibit the correlation between estrogen and the AR. This is why letro is a bad choice for the moderate user
MudMan covered the optimal protocol
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08-17-2004, 10:00 AM #16Associate Member
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So if i were to take 10mg of nolva everyday throughout my cycle, and run into symptoms of gyno, by how much do i up the dose? 40mg instead of 10?
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08-17-2004, 11:13 AM #17Originally Posted by Reelmuscle
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