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    Question First Cycle Advice

    First Cycle

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    Although this is my first official post, I have been reading from behind the seens for several months now. I also have visited Extreme Fitness on a regular basis for info and insight.

    A little about myself...

    30 years old
    6'2" tall
    210 pounds
    14% BF

    I have been in and out of the gym pretty regularly for about 3 years now. I typically work my ass off for 3-4 months until I get frustrated with results and quit working out for a few months. I just started back and this time I want to try something new. I need to see results. By results I mean size and strength gains.

    I am looking to attempt my first cycle. What I have in mind is:


    Code:
    Dianabol       25mg/day       -4 weeks
    Test E         400mg/week    -10
    
    (Nolvadex         everyday while taking Dianabol)
    
    Clomid           Post cycle
    I am curious as to what the general consensus is in regards to this 1st cycle. Good or Bad?

    I appreciate your feedback. I trust your insight.

    Thanks,
    /DJ

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    cycle looks good, typical first cycle.
    run nolva @ 10mg ed all cycle (and ldex @ 0.25mg ed too if u want).
    pct with clomid and nolva (read in educational thread and in pct forum, there are lots of useful posts).
    so, your cycle should be:
    1-4 dbols 25-30mg ed
    1-10 test 400mg wk (something like 200mg 2 x wk or 250 e4d)
    1-12 nolva 10mg ed
    1-12 ldex .25mg ed
    13-15 clomid (300-100-50 and nolva @ 20mg)

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    forgot to mention liver protectans while on dbols (and lots of water too)

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    Like fabry said, looks good for a typical first cycle.

    My concern is that you haven't put in a lot of time in the gym. That fact that you go for a couple of months then get frustrated tells me something in your training is off, either you're not training hard enough/correctly, or you're not eating enough. Either way, you need to fix those problems before you use steroids, because if they aren't on, adding steroids is not going to help and you'll just get frustrated again.

    chance

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    Quote Originally Posted by chances
    Like fabry said, looks good for a typical first cycle.

    My concern is that you haven't put in a lot of time in the gym. That fact that you go for a couple of months then get frustrated tells me something in your training is off, either you're not training hard enough/correctly, or you're not eating enough. Either way, you need to fix those problems before you use steroids, because if they aren't on, adding steroids is not going to help and you'll just get frustrated again.

    chance
    AMEN!
    4-6 months of good trainin before startin with aas... be patient

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabry
    AMEN!
    4-6 months of good trainin before startin with aas... be patient
    Thats a good point and something I missed. That original post was a copy/paste from an original post I made back in May on another board.

    I adjusted the wegith in original post from 192 to my weight now-210.

    I have made gains (18 lbs) in the last 4 months and am now ready to kick things into high gear.

    Thanks

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    kind of looks like my cycle. 2nd cycle=
    D-Bol week 1-6 10mg 3 pills a day
    Test E. 250mg strength 4 cc's a week. week 2-14
    Deca at 600mg a week. week 1-12
    running clomids and HCG pct
    milk thistle to fight the toxins from d bol
    taking Nolva as anti-estrogen only when signs of gyno occur
    also throwing in creatine and Mammoth 2500 in the cycle along with a flawless diet
    any input? good or bad will be appreciated

    author of this thread: I did Test-E my first cycle and was happy with the results, try throwing in some Deca with the D-Bols and you should get good results. We can compare after our cycles are complete

    Physical_Specimen
    Last edited by Physical_Specimen; 08-22-2004 at 04:59 PM.

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    one gram of test per week is alot for a second cycle.

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