help I need to change roids

[oespejel]

ok this is the problem

Im on my cuting cycle, im doing 8 to 12 week depending on how i feel
this is what im using

50 mg of winn eod
450 mg of prop a week
300 mg of test a week

my problem is that i can take the prop anymore, the pain is really bad and i missed work out days because of these shoots, i need to change the prop for something else.

for what i been learning from u guys, is that u have to keep your test at least 100 mg more than your deca, so the main question here is there is anythinh else that i can take instead of the propionate? i want to keep using the deca, can i use any other form of test either cypio, or etha?

[w_rballs]

so u are taking 450 of prop and 300 of test? what ester of test?

[BUYLONGTERM]

Where in your cycle is your DECA? You definitely have to run some sort of Test, so Try Enan or Cyp. Also, you need to take Winstrol ED!!!!

[w_rballs]

and winny should be taken ED because of the short halflife

[muscleup]

why not run enanthate with an anti-e ?

[oespejel]

what do you mean "ester"
the prop is 100mg for 1 cc so I shoot it 3 times a week 150mg everytime
this is what i been doing
M,F 50 mg of winn and 150 of prop
W 50 mg of winn, 150 of prop and 300 of deca
But the prop is killing me in the last 4 week i lost 4 days in the gym and also acouple of days at work because of the pain, at this moment i can barely walk and the last shoot was on monday.
you mean anti estrogen?
so how much mg of test either cyp or etha? should i keep it in the 450?
i will start the winn ed

[builtthekid]

man you should of used enathate

[AandF6969]

"Ester" means an extra molecule attached to the testosterone to make it faster or slower release... EXAMPLES: Propionate, Enanthate, Cypionate

Try injecting slower and heating the liquid before injection. Massage thoroughly after injection and also you can put a heating pad on the site to disperse the oil.

[oespejel]

in my last shoot ( monday ) i mix the prop with the deca and i put the syringe under hot water for a while, also i massage the area for 5 min with a hot towel.
i did everything to make it less painful but it didnt work

[)(PimP JuicE)(]

how long have you been on your cycle? stick with it you'll most likely stop getting the pain after a while.

[oespejel]

4 weeks already
the first week i shooted on my shoulder, i wasnt able to move my arm for 2 days, on the next week a shooted again on monday but this time on my glute and the swelling and the pain was really bad also i got a fever and end it up missing two days on the gym and two days at work, and so on. the last shoot was on monday on my glute, i went to the gym yesterday but as soon as i started lifting weights the pain on my glutes start to get worse, now i can barely walk, believe me im even scare of taking my next shoot

[Dmize9]

What brand of prop are you running??...... it may have a high BA content....that is probably causing the pain.

[oespejel]

is vet prop, probably that why it hurts so much

[w_rballs]

exactely why it hurts so much. u can cut it with some b-12 that will help it out

[oespejel]

b-12,
how much b-12 do i need to cut it down?

[w_rballs]

u can cut it with 500mcg which is usually 1/2 ml

[oespejel]

b-12 is liquid vitamin b-12 right?
any idea where can i get it?

[w_rballs]

u got a PM bro

[PT]

you can get b-12 at anabolicreview-research.

[PT]

also im shooting qv prop everyday and am not having any problems at all. it hurt a little bit at first but got easier as time progressed.

[oespejel]

i dont know why it hurts so much
out of 8 shoots 6 has been very painful
i can bare the pain but the problem is that im not able to workout

[oespejel]

how can i get to anabolicreview- research

[w_rballs]

click in the top rioght of the page on the banner

[oespejel]

thanks bro

[AandF6969]

the problem is that im not able to workout

Yeah it sucks working that muscle the first couple sets but when blood gets pumping in there it makes it feel better and helps disperse the oil.

[MrMent1on]

Definitly use B-12, I use 1cc or 1000mcg, its a miracle, no pain. dont drop the prop, use B-12. and you do change injection site everyday correct. you should only hit one spot a week.