cycle advice

[BigBoi83]

im starting to plan my second cycle and i want to use fina in a a sort of lean mass cycle. this is what i have so far ne advice would be appreciated.

1-12 test enanthate800mg/week
1-4 androl 50mg/day
6-14 tren 50mg/day
14-18 pct clomid/nolva

[tonytone]

seems like a lot to me for a second cycle...any other opinions?

[MBaraso]

First off if you looking for lean mass there's no better drug out there then EQ.
Forget about the drol and run eq in it's place @ 400mgs per week.
2nd: You should run the test past the tren, and up the dosage to 75mgs ed.
week 1-14 test 800mgs
week 1-13 Eq 400mgs
week 5-13 tren 75mgs ed
Clomid 2 weeks out.
ldex .5 cc ed

If your diets clean you should gain plenty of lean mass with that cycle.

[UnNaturalBuff]

Dont look too bad too me, just keep your diet in check.

[BigBoi83]

First off if you looking for lean mass there's no better drug out there then EQ.
Forget about the drol and run eq in it's place @ 400mgs per week.
2nd: You should run the test past the tren, and up the dosage to 75mgs ed.
week 1-14 test 800mgs
week 1-13 Eq 400mgs
week 5-13 tren 75mgs ed
Clomid 2 weeks out.
ldex .5 cc ed

If your diets clean you should gain plenty of lean mass with that cycle.

see im not really sure weather to go with a bulker or a cutter. i wanna put on about another twenty lean. i gained very little fat this cycle while bulking. actually i leaned out a bit more and i ate nething i could see. can fina be used in a bulker??

[BigBoi83]

First off if you looking for lean mass there's no better drug out there then EQ.
Forget about the drol and run eq in it's place @ 400mgs per week.
2nd: You should run the test past the tren, and up the dosage to 75mgs ed.
week 1-14 test 800mgs
week 1-13 Eq 400mgs
week 5-13 tren 75mgs ed
Clomid 2 weeks out.
ldex .5 cc ed

If your diets clean you should gain plenty of lean mass with that cycle.

ive never looked into eq to much as i gatherd that it is a weaker steriod. am i correst?? would deca not be better?

[MBaraso]

see im not really sure weather to go with a bulker or a cutter. i wanna put on about another twenty lean. i gained very little fat this cycle while bulking. actually i leaned out a bit more and i ate nething i could see. can fina be used in a bulker??

Yeah fina can be used in cutting or bulking.
Drol is strictly a bulking drug IMO and when you stop usage you'll lose that water weight, only other time drol is used in cutting is when your in pre-contest to preserve the muscle while dieting...Stick with EQ/test/tren for lean mass.

[BigBoi83]

why should u run test longer than fina??

[MBaraso]

Eq isn't a weak steriod, it just has very low sides so thats why some ppl believe it's weak but it isn't.
Deca is the king of mass builders IMO.
So for your goal I think Eq will be best...Definetly my fav drug.

[MBaraso]

why should u run test longer than fina??

Well for 2 reasons:
Fina shuts u down hard and stopping it a week or 2 before the test will help aid in recovery post cycle.
2nd: you could run into problems with getting it up.

[BigBoi83]

Well for 2 reasons:
Fina shuts u down hard and stopping it a week or 2 before the test will help aid in recovery post cycle.
2nd: you could run into problems with getting it up.

i thought thats why they make cials and viagra

no but really thanx for the help. defiantly considering using the eg now but if i were to go with an all out bulker how should i use deca in this cycle

[MBaraso]

i thought thats why they make cials and viagra

no but really thanx for the help. defiantly considering using the eg now but if i were to go with an all out bulker how should i use deca in this cycle

You don't wanna go with out test even if it's just for 2 weeks, because of the recovery factor.
Bulking cycle would look something like this:
Week 1-14 test e 800mgs
Week 1-4 drol 50mgs ed
week 1-12,or 13 deca 400mgs
clomid 2 weeks out
anti e's throughout if you wish.

[BigBoi83]

You don't wanna go with out test even if it's just for 2 weeks, because of the recovery factor.
Bulking cycle would look something like this:
Week 1-14 test e 800mgs
Week 1-4 drol 50mgs ed
week 1-12,or 13 deca 400mgs
clomid 2 weeks out
anti e's throughout if you wish.

ok bro thanx. sounds good i think im gonna go with the fina eq test but well see what happens.