I (along with others I know) have new batches of Tren and Deca from *P and there is absolutely no pain, just like T-200 or any other painless injectable (I have taken plenty of *P injects and they were all painful to a certain degree, few days afterward). I was under the impression that the high BA had to part of the mix to be able to reatin a greater amount of AAS in the ester (300mg Deca, etc.) along with also making it sterile. I am just slightly concerned about the potency being lowered because of this, but I am certainly not a chemist, so any input you guys have would be appreciated.