First Cycle question

**ThaRealPlayhata** · 03-07-2002, 12:07 AM

Could i see decent results for a first cycle using T200 @ 200mg weeks 1-10 and D-bol 25mg weeks 1-4???

Thanks,

Phil

**gettinthere** · 03-07-2002, 12:10 AM

Well it really depends, of course. if you train hard and eat right then you'll more than likely see a lot more gains even on small doses than on none at all. Depending on your stats you could still gain 10lbs or so from those doses.

**Ajax** · 03-07-2002, 03:39 AM

I am winding up a cycle that is just about the same as yours--except about double the dosage.

Weeks 1-8
Sustanon 250mg 1x/week
Test Enth 250mg 1x /week

Weeks 1-4
Dianabol 50mg daily

I had surprising gains. About 10 kilos in 8 weeks!

Looking back, it being my first cycle and all, I am not convinced that I needed all that gear.

You can always go light on the first cycle and measure your results. In retrospect I should have done lower dosages and seen if it was adequate before taking the amount I did.

**Dr.Evil** · 03-07-2002, 11:48 AM

depends on what "decent" is for you. many people could make gains off of that dose, but i'd suggest tripling the test.

**iron4life79** · 03-07-2002, 02:36 PM

for your first go round, those numbers are fine. try it and see how you do, if you need more you add it in next time.

peace bb79

**Methuselah** · 03-07-2002, 03:02 PM

I gained on a low dose like that my first cycle. Wish I would have done more and gained more. I would do 300 mg and 30 mg. If I could do my first cycle again I would do 400 mg test/400 mg Deca /30 mg Dbol . Hind sight is 20/20.

**4plates** · 03-07-2002, 03:11 PM

personally i dont like test and dbol cycles,i dont even consider it a cycle.
sure it will make you bigger and stronger while you are on but once you come of you will not hold the streanth gains or body weight.maybe you will keep a few lbs but thats it.
i recently did a (cycle),of 800 mg test cyp,and 50 mg dbol
i ran the cyp for 10 wks
dbol for 4 wks,and added 100 mg test prop ed for 3 wks after the cyp so i could hit the clomid 3 days out.
i gained 25 lbs and streanth gains were serious,but 4 wks post cycle after loosing all the water,my weight went down 12-13 lbs,and im holding 10-12 lbs of it.my streanth is no where near what it was while cycleing.
i feel if i added something like eq or deca i would of gained alot more quality muscle and kept more of it.
this is my experience,bro and i thought i would share that with you,
if its going to be your first cycle i agree you will see gains off very little products,but if you do it right you will keep more of the gains

**Methuselah** · 03-07-2002, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by 4plates

i gained 25 lbs and streanth gains were serious,but 4 wks post cycle after loosing all the water,my weight went down 12-13 lbs,and im holding 10-12 lbs of it.my streanth is no where near what it was while cycleing.
i feel if i added something like eq or deca i would of gained alot more quality muscle and kept more of it.

I agree 100% with 4plates. I had the same experience. My first cycle, the weight came on just fine. Even at the low dose. When the water went away I was left with 8 pounds of muscle. Not bad, but I want more. I've bumped up the test and added deca . Will try other stacks in the future.

**gettinthere** · 03-07-2002, 08:02 PM

4plates,
im starting a cycle of test500/wk and eq400/wk, with dbol at 35ed for 4 weeks. This is my first cycle. I'm not really aiming to blow up, or to cut up. Just gain about 20lbs that I can keep. Do you think the eq is going to help ensure that what i gain I keep? I'm looking to hear back from anyone who has used either this eq/test/dbol or something very close, and what they gained from it.

***the original jason*** · 03-08-2002, 04:13 AM

i gained 25 lbs and streanth gains were serious,but 4 wks post cycle after loosing all the water,my weight went down 12-13 lbs,and im holding 10-12 lbs of it

When the water went away I was left with 8 pounds of muscle. Not bad, but I want more

Guys I reckon they are good gains, seriously all these people who say yeah 25lb+ per cycle i just have never bought it. You got to make some allowances for yourself 8 lb in 8 weeks is good going I know what you are all saying cos im a perfectionist too but I just have to tell myself this just isnt happening today it takes time some people are luckier than others keep at it

peace

jason