Next cycle with mixed reviews.....need advice!

**Grand Master B** · 03-07-2002, 08:34 AM

I'm looking for a cutting cycle and have put this togther with some help from some of you, but people are telling me several different things. I have decided to use a lifeline and ask the audiance their overall opinion (with NO disrepect for the people who have already helped)

My goal is to be back under 10%BF like I was a year and a half ago.
I am 29, 5'6", 165ish lbs, 15%bf.
I am picking up some EQ & Winny from **.

My plan (please give me your opinion)
wk1...EQ 600mgs.......Winny 75mgs ED.......Super Clen
wk2...EQ 600mgs.......Winny 75mgs ED.......Super Clen
wk3...EQ 400mgs.......Winny 75mgs ED.......T3
wk4...EQ 400mgs.......Winny 75mgs ED.......Fina 50mgs ED.... T3
wk5...EQ 400mgs.......Winny 75mgs ED.......Fina 50mgs ED....Clen
wk6...EQ 400mgs.......Winny 75mgs ED.......Fina 50mgs ED....Clen
wk7...EQ 400mgs.......Fina 50mgs ED.....T3
wk8...EQ 400mgs.......Fina 50mgs ED.....T3
wk9...EQ 400mgs.......Fina 50mgs ED.....Clen
wk10.EQ 400mgs.......Fina 50mgs ED.....Clen
wk11 - Clomid
wk12 - Clomid
wk13 - Clomid

Winny will be oral as the only source i have is ** and the Fina I will convert into Inj.

Someone has said he strongly suggests I take some Test throughout at 250mgs wks 1-10, which I am not opposed of but is that too working against everything else in my cycle or do I need it to get my Test levels up? Also, do I run the T3 opposite of Clen? I'm not super familair with the T3.

I am looking to trim all fat and completely shred into lean vascular muscle.

Your help is greatly appreciated!

GMB

**Dr.Evil** · 03-07-2002, 11:47 AM

start your winny on week 4 and run it along with fina. these 2 are very synergistic with each other.

stay away from super clen . that shit will knock you out and make you so tired you won't be able to get out of bed!

you're a little on the small side to want to cut weight.

eq will make you eat like a horse, not good for a cutting cycle.

there is no such thing as a cutting roid. if you want to get to 10% bf, you need a solid diet and exercise program.

**Grand Master B** · 03-07-2002, 11:55 AM

Yes I know all about excersize and diet, just looking for my cycle to compliment what I am trying to acheive. Yes, I am a smaller framed guy (almost 5'6") and know that AS do not burn fat themselves, but I am trying to get hard, smooth vascular gains, not major mass at this time. The last time I did Deca /Test, I thought my face was going to explode, but I loved the build. Now I want to cut.

Do I need to stay away from EQ then?

GMB

**Mr. Fina** · 03-07-2002, 11:56 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dr.Evil
[B].

eq will make you eat like a horse, not good for a cutting cycle.

Evil that is a sterotype of eq.

Grandmaster

eq 1-10 400 (usually Ii recommned 600 but at your weight 400 should be fine)
7-12 fina 75 ed
7-12 winny 50 ed
I would throw in test somewhere in the cycle. I feel test is the backbone of a cycle. I like test prop 7-12 50 ed or go with enth 1-10 400-500 week.
Rrun your clomid 3 days after winny and fina for the 3 weeks you have planned.
Be careful with the t3, yes you can use clen through out cycle.

Have arimedex to keep water down.

As far as your bodyfat that depends upon your diet and training.

**Grand Master B** · 03-07-2002, 11:59 AM

Thnx Mr. Fina,

I have heard alot of people say becareful or stay away from T3, and I admit to not being up to par on the knowledge of it. Should I ditch that all together and stick with Clen on/off every 2 weeks? My metabolism is pretty good when I stay away from alcohol.
Do you have the same opinion of Super Clen?

GMB

**Grand Master B** · 03-07-2002, 12:00 PM

how about running the TEST in the 1st 7weeks before Fina/Winny?

GMB

**Dr.Evil** · 03-07-2002, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Fina

Evil that is a sterotype of eq.

i'm just speaking from personal experience. from my experience, eq, fina, and anadrol made my appetite go through the roof. eq was by far the worst.

**Mr. Fina** · 03-07-2002, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Grand Master B
how about running the TEST in the 1st 7weeks before Fina/Winny?

GMB

Run the enth all 10 or if you can run the prop for the whole 12.

Less injections on the enth and because of the long ester you'll feel the effects of enth all the way through the 12th week even after you stop it at week 10. Get off alcohol all through out your cycle, your liver will thank you plus you tend to retain water when alcohol is consumed.

I've never used super clen so I can't tell you but plain clen can be used during the cycle. However, I like to get on it for the first two weeks that I'm off my cycle.

**Grand Master B** · 03-07-2002, 01:08 PM

that's why I'm asking the questions. I know enough and have used AS before, but NOT T3. This cycle was a suggestion, including the T3. That's why I am throwing it back to you guys for help.

GMB