Calling all steriod users

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 06:34 PM

I am currently 142lb and 5'9 and boxing. My goal is to get extremely cut, very strong, and to add no more than 8lb so I can stay in the weight class that I am in. My goal is to do find some juice that will have strength, a little weight add, get me ripped, and SAFE. I don't know that much about steroids and in the process and willing to learn. I am very interested in Clen because it helps not loosing protein and is very safe, but I think I should do more than just Clen. If anyone can create a good cycle for what I want I would appreciate it. This would be the first time I have ever juiced.

**S R H** · 09-30-2004, 06:37 PM

Clen is very safe?... Its just as safe as alota other sh*t ... i gotta dose it right and use it right... get a clen handbook.. U gotta lotta research man. And its not that great for ur heart. Do a search for clen

**P Rock** · 09-30-2004, 06:41 PM

being that you do not know much about "juice", i strongly suggest that you do a lot of research before jumping into it. you come to the right place. click on the educational thread at the top and you will get a ton of info. clen is very dangerous if you do not use it correctly. read, read, read. good luck

**SKiN** · 09-30-2004, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

I am currently 142lb and 5'9 and boxing. My goal is to get extremely cut, very strong, and to add no more than 8lb so I can stay in the weight class that I am in. My goal is to do find some juice that will have strength, a little weight add, get me ripped, and SAFE. I don't know that much about steroids and in the process and willing to learn. I am very interested in Clen because it helps not loosing protein and is very safe, but I think I should do more than just Clen. If anyone can create a good cycle for what I want I would appreciate it. This would be the first time I have ever juiced.

I think Anavar would be a good choice... Wont shut you down tooooo bad but will keep you lean and help you put on some real solid muscle. As for safe anavar imo is much more safe than clen .

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 07:06 PM

I didn't now Clen affected my heart. I wrote about Var 2 weeks ago asking people if it would shut down my test production and people said it would?

**SKiN** · 09-30-2004, 07:10 PM

Anavar will shut down your endogenous test to a certain degree.... but not too hard.. No where near tren , deca , ect..

**1-Cent** · 09-30-2004, 07:11 PM

Why not just put on some mass naturaly and move up a few classes? I've boxed for almost 10 years on and off (since I was in my early-mid teens) and I don't think I've even seen someone come in at 142lbs being 5'9 because you get the 5'3 guys at the same weight who are solid as a rock and look twice as heavy. At 142 you don't need AAS bro, you could gain size with so little effort its not even funny.

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 07:17 PM

yea i understand what your saying and thats what i have done. My workouts are going really good right now and i am eating right and everything, but i always want more.

**spooledup** · 09-30-2004, 07:20 PM

var would be great. And if you want to add some stamina and some more lean muscle mass thats mostly all retainable go with EQ.

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 07:21 PM

One more thing if it is so easy like you are saying then why do so many athletes in the world use steroids ?

**beeffreak6** · 09-30-2004, 07:32 PM

U Weight Almost 150 And U A Wanna Get Ripped? Wow How Old R U? U Prob Need More Protein But I Dont Know What U Eat Even Though U Said U Eat Right. Protein Will Help U Get Stronger And More Fuller If U Up It By 100grams U MIGHT EVEN HAVE TO UP IT MORE DEPENDING ON WHAT U R TAKIN IN NOW But If U R Gonna Go With AAS Go With Test! Just My Opinion Though

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 07:37 PM

I have 1g protein per pound body weight. I have my carbs. And my fats.

**beeffreak6** · 09-30-2004, 07:40 PM

Def Up It To At Least 1 1/2 Per Pound Or 2 That Will Help The Test Might Bloat U A Little But If U R Boxing U Wont Have To Really Worry About That As Much How Old R U

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 07:46 PM

I am 18

**Jackman** · 09-30-2004, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by beeffreak6

U Weight Almost 150 And U A Wanna Get Ripped? Wow How Old R U? U Prob Need More Protein But I Dont Know What U Eat Even Though U Said U Eat Right. Protein Will Help U Get Stronger And More Fuller If U Up It By 100grams U MIGHT EVEN HAVE TO UP IT MORE DEPENDING ON WHAT U R TAKIN IN NOW But If U R Gonna Go With AAS Go With Test! Just My Opinion Though

Whats with the caps every other word, reminds me of those 17 year old girls profiles.

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 07:49 PM

he could gain size, but why would he want to? i boxed for many years, and i would rather be tall for my weight class than muscular.

I AGREE

**1badcamaro** · 09-30-2004, 07:51 PM

my suggestion is no juice. You obviously havent done your research and diving into it with no knoweldge is not a good idea. Sounds like all you need to do is eat more and probably train harder. Do it naturally as hard as you can for a year and in that time study up on AS and maybe then you'll be ready to hit up a cycle.

**Jackman** · 09-30-2004, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by AG5678

he could gain size, but why would he want to? i boxed for many years, and i would rather be tall for my weight class than muscular.

I AGREE

So what you suppose he do? take miracle grow

**dieseL atC** · 09-30-2004, 08:03 PM

Var/Clen would be a good choice.. but Var is expensive. I think a good cycle would be something like this

1-8: Var @ 50mg/ed
1,2,5,6,9,10: Clen
3,4,7,8: ECY

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 08:08 PM

DieseL atc:
I was looking at Clen but at the beginning of all this people were saying that it screws up your heart is that true?

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 08:10 PM

amateur

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 08:25 PM

ranked, yes i am but its hard becuase im not making any money from it right now, so i have to find a good job. You know what i mean. I'll pretty much know where im going in a year or so, thats why im trying to push it really hard right now.

**Jackman** · 09-30-2004, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by MMA

most people do not understand weight class sports. if you're scrawny, and you fight people who weigh the same as you do, you're always taller than they are. in boxing, reach is more important than big muscles.

if he gains a lot of muscle mass, all he does is go up a weight class, and fight bigger guys. net gain = 0. actually, he hurt himself, because he is now "shorter" for his weight class

thats why i outlined a "power to weight ratio" cycle, instead of a mass and power cycle

It was a joke calm down, and you always want to get the closest to the next class without getting into it.

**bignatt** · 09-30-2004, 08:35 PM

I think when dosed correctly clen is safe

**Jackman** · 09-30-2004, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by MMA

sorry, i'm kind of literal minded, and have a hard time picking up humor when reading sometimes.

i thought the

would throw it off.

**AG5678** · 09-30-2004, 08:57 PM

Thanks i'll look into that

**AandF6969** · 09-30-2004, 09:01 PM

AG5678,

you said you get 1g protein per lb. bodyweight... up it to 1 1/2 and tell us about your carbs/fats intake. Timing of carbs/fats/protein is essential for building muscle and losing fat.