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    Steak Helmet is offline Associate Member
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    Should I Be Running An Anti-estro???

    I am taking 30mgs D-bol ED for the first 6 weeks.

    500mg SUS 250 every week for 12 weeks.

    Should I run some NOLV??? How about 30mgs EOD?

    Thanks for the help?

    I feel I am pretty pron to gyno.

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    if your prone and you know FOR SURE you are then you should take a little bit of nolvadex with your cycle. maybe 20 mg's eo/d

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    with Dbol , one word, YES. Dbol converts to esters very quickly probally more than any AS. But again if you are not prone to gyno then don't, but I would have some on hand, just in case, you nipples start to itch or beocome sensitive. Also I think Nolv helps with your gains cause it blocks esters from certain sites hince allow more free test to be in your body.

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    How come everyone reccomends Nolvadex over Arimidex ?

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    Originally posted by Gettin Stupid
    How come everyone reccomends Nolvadex over Arimidex?
    nolvadex is a whole lot cheaper. arimidex will almost completely surpress any estrogen!

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    Nolvadex can still get the job done unless you are very prone to it. Wait for sides and then kick them in bro. I am getting sore nips 3rd week into my cycle started taking nolva a few day back. I am up to 30mg/day for now.

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    P-R-O-V-I-R-O-N

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    Originally posted by nemesis
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    proviron is a weak to moderate aromatase inhibitor, arimidex is a miracle drug for estrogen induced gyno.

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    arimidex !

    nolva supresses igf-1 and hinders gains. it also needs to be used almost throughout cycle.

    arimidex can be saved for when you get itchy nips and other symptoms of gyno. or if you don't want the water retention you can hit it throughout the entire cycle at .25mg/day. if it's just for gyno purposes it's worth the money and may turn out to be cheaper in the long run anyway.

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    Originally posted by Dr.Evil
    arimidex !

    nolva supresses igf-1 and hinders gains. it also needs to be used almost throughout cycle.

    arimidex can be saved for when you get itchy nips and other symptoms of gyno. or if you don't want the water retention you can hit it throughout the entire cycle at .25mg/day. if it's just for gyno purposes it's worth the money and may turn out to be cheaper in the long run anyway.
    well said. arimidex is cheaper in the long run!!

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    Originally posted by Dr.Evil
    arimidex !

    nolva supresses igf-1 and hinders gains. it also needs to be used almost throughout cycle.
    Please provide source data for this claim. I've never heard of this. I have read some speculation on some BB websites, but nothing clinical.

    In fact, my doc who specializes in HRT and does nothing else encourages the use of 10mg Nolvadex ed while on cycle. I haven't noticed any suppresed gains and I certainly don't have the puffy steroid look from water retention. I'm in the middle of week 5 of 400mg test/300mg deca /10mg ed Nolva and already have six pounds of lean mass without water. The cycle is just kicking in, I should see about 15 plus pounds at the end and keep all of it since there won't be any water to shed.

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    Thanks fellas for all teh help...


    I love this board more than ELITEFITNESS.com

    they have obtained a few hundred boners and they add smartass comment s to everything you ask.

    Thanks.

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    you know,
    i have heard the same thing about nolva.........that it hinders gains. but i have never seen anything clinical to back it up either. i would be very interested to see something in black and white on this subject also. i refrain from taking nolva while on unless i absolutely need to, just because of this way of thinking. but because of methuselahs post, im starting to rethink this position. any clinical study info would be appreciated................


    peace bb79

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    yes that is a must

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    proviron helps you use more of the tes that your injecting,
    dont you want to use all the test you can get, out of your injection
    not to mention the other benifiets proviron provides like preventing aromatase. thus cutting down/lowering the risks of titties. i'm not saying to JUST rely totally on proviron, no.

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