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10-07-2004, 06:45 PM #1New Member
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first cycle
ive been dooing some research and come to this conclusion on a first cycle
wk1-10 400mg of eq and test e
wk9-11 50mg winstrol eod
wk12-13 clomid
is this a good idea? how much test e a week? and would clomid be fine or should i look into nolva
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10-07-2004, 06:53 PM #2Originally Posted by johnvom
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10-07-2004, 06:57 PM #3
definitely not well thought out bro.....
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10-07-2004, 06:57 PM #4
stick with test only for around 10 weeks at 400-500mg. Have nolvadex , clomid, and all of your gear on hand before you start. But most importantly, do some more research. PCT should be longer than 2 weeks. Look into recent posts on frontloading and Pheendo's PCT. There's also a good post by MudMan I believe that has about 10 different beginners cycles. Good luck.
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10-07-2004, 07:10 PM #5
Run the test for 13 weeks at 500mg and the eq for 12 weeks at 500mgs. PCT following. Tons of PCT information in the "PCT" forum.
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10-07-2004, 07:33 PM #6New Member
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is the winstrol in this cycle a good or bad idea?
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10-07-2004, 08:35 PM #7
Wouldn't do winstrol for a first cycle. Can be hard on the joints which would not be good with your new strength gains.
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10-07-2004, 08:45 PM #8Originally Posted by johnvom
test e 500mg/wk
Eq 400mg/wk
Winny 50mg ed
i would bump your test to 500mg/wk and do the winny ed as opposed to eod. by the way why dont you run the test 1 week longer than the eq so you can start pct same time. also imho you are running your winny too short. youl hardly see any gains, try doing it 5 weeks say last 5 weeks of cycle.
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10-07-2004, 09:47 PM #9New Member
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should i worry about test aromatizing while on cycle or the high estrogen levels post cycle...................what im trying to ask is should i take an anti estrogen like nolva or arimidex while on cycle or just wait to pct..........also, does taking a anti-e reduce gains during cycle?
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10-07-2004, 09:48 PM #10Originally Posted by johnvom
it would be wise to take nolva/arimidex while on cycle to help combat bloat and for gyno prevention. better safe than sorry bro.
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10-07-2004, 09:51 PM #11New Member
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would you suggest arimidex over nolva or both?
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10-07-2004, 09:53 PM #12Originally Posted by johnvom
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10-07-2004, 09:53 PM #13
confused?
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10-07-2004, 09:56 PM #14
dont know how my post ended up here, sorry
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10-07-2004, 09:57 PM #15Originally Posted by mithical
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10-07-2004, 09:59 PM #16New Member
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at what dosages?
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10-07-2004, 10:02 PM #17Originally Posted by johnvom
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10-07-2004, 10:03 PM #18New Member
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thanks
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