Next Cycle

**dtr98** · 10-08-2004, 11:54 AM

going to go with a 28wk cycle, have some sust to use up so going:
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-6 prop 100 mg eod
1-6 sust 250mg eod
6-21 deca 250mg 2x wk
6-26 eq 300mg 2x wk
6-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
and maybe some more dbol on wks 6-12

good/ bad feedback

**dtr98** · 10-09-2004, 07:55 AM

nobody has an opinion???

**dtr98** · 10-09-2004, 08:07 AM

thanks for the help

**w_rballs** · 10-09-2004, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by dtr98

going to go with a 28wk cycle, have some sust to use up so going:
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-6 prop 100 mg eod
1-6 sust 250mg eod
6-21 deca 250mg 2x wk
6-26 eq 300mg 2x wk
6-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
and maybe some more dbol on wks 6-12

good/ bad feedback

10 no need to kick start with both prop and dbol pick one or the other.
2) u have too many tests there IMO. hold the sust for something else and run the enanathe 1-28 or run the enanthate 1-22 600mg/week then week 22-28 run the sust 600mg/week
3) your test is 1400mg/week for the fist 6 weeks... then it drops to 600mg/week. keep it the same dose throughotu the cycle

just my .02

***JohnnyB*** · 10-09-2004, 10:20 AM

I agree on droping the sus and running enan all the way through and dropping the d-bol if you're running prop. I don't see where the 1400mg of test is coming from, since he doesn't start the enan until the 6th week.

But I'd like to know how many cycles you have done that you are going that long and running eq and deca together?

JohnnyB

**w_rballs** · 10-09-2004, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I agree on droping the sus and running enan all the way through and dropping the d-bol if you're running prop. I don't see where the 1400mg of test is coming from, since he doesn't start the enan until the 6th week.

But I'd like to know how many cycles you have done that you are going that long and running eq and deca together?

JohnnyB

weeks 1-6 he is running 100mg/EOD of prop and 250mg/EOD of sust so 350/mgEOD

**dtr98** · 10-09-2004, 02:29 PM

so i shouldn't run eq and deca together??

***JohnnyB*** · 10-09-2004, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by w_rballs

weeks 1-6 he is running 100mg/EOD of prop and 250mg/EOD of sust so 350/mgEOD

Bro he's not running the enan for the first 6 weeks

JohnnyB

***JohnnyB*** · 10-09-2004, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by dtr98

so i shouldn't run eq and deca together??

What's your cycle history?

JohnnyB

**1-Cent** · 10-09-2004, 04:40 PM

I'd keep the dbol in there, I'm not sure why theres some kind of unwritten rule on AR that you can't use it for anything other than to kickstart long estered cycles, it works WAY better after the Test has started working anyway. If you like the androgens like me then theres no reason to take it out

**dtr98** · 10-09-2004, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by dtr98

going to go with a 28wk cycle, have some sust to use up so going:
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-6 prop 100 mg eod
1-6 sust 250mg eod
6-21 deca 250mg 2x wk
6-26 eq 300mg 2x wk
6-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
and maybe some more dbol on wks 6-12

good/ bad feedback

how's this look now?
run the dbol, run sust @ 125mg eod for 10wks deca for 10wks. then the enan and eq

**dtr98** · 10-09-2004, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by 1-Cent

I'd keep the dbol in there, I'm not sure why theres some kind of unwritten rule on AR that you can't use it for anything other than to kickstart long estered cycles, it works WAY better after the Test has started working anyway. If you like the androgens like me then theres no reason to take it out

that's why i was going to run it 2x in this cycle, what about the eq and deca together?
thanks

**PiecinItUp** · 10-09-2004, 06:17 PM

No to the EQ and Deca Together, basically the same compound, one or the other...id do this..well Id prob never do a 28 weeker, but....

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-26 eq 300mg 2x wk or Deca same dose....
1-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
Nolva and L-dex the whole time
maybe add some winny at the end 100mg ed/ weeks 23-28
proper PCT of course

**w_rballs** · 10-10-2004, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Bro he's not running the enan for the first 6 weeks

JohnnyB

hey johnny... not trying to argue with a mod here( dont want a name like juggy's)....
but if u add up the 100mg/EOD of prop he is taking and the 250mg/EOD of sust he is takin for the first 6 weeks its comes out to 1400mg/the first week then 1050 for the second week. and then repeats itself

**dtr98** · 10-10-2004, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

What's your cycle history?

JohnnyB

one cycle b4 without a plan,
started with super test 250 ( way underdosed ) 250mg eod
added some dbol at 3 wks qv vet 50mg ( bunk also )
added some qv deca ( bunk ) 300 mg 2x wk

thinkin of changing to

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-10 prop 50 mg eod or at
1-10 sust 125mg eod
1-10 deca 250mg 2x wk

10-26 eq 300mg 2x wk
10-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
and maybe some more dbol on wks 6-12

good/ bad feedback

**w_rballs** · 10-10-2004, 08:57 AM

by adding the dbol at weeks 6-12 i think it will be too tough on your body. too much 17aa in one cycle.

are u gonna run the sust and the prop at the same time weeks 1-6?

**dtr98** · 10-10-2004, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by w_rballs

by adding the dbol at weeks 6-12 i think it will be too tough on your body. too much 17aa in one cycle.

are u gonna run the sust and the prop at the same time weeks 1-6?

thinkin of changing to

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-10 prop 50 mg eod
1-10 sust 125mg eod
1-10 deca 250mg 2x wk

10-26 eq 300mg 2x wk
10-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
and maybe some more dbol on wks 6-12

**dtr98** · 10-11-2004, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by dtr98

thinkin of changing to

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-10 prop 50 mg eod
1-10 sust 125mg eod
1-10 deca 250mg 2x wk

10-26 eq 300mg 2x wk
10-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
and maybe some more dbol on wks 6-12

does this sound better to you guys??
thanks

**dtr98** · 10-12-2004, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by dtr98

does this sound better to you guys??
thanks

any ideas??
thanks

**w_rballs** · 10-12-2004, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by dtr98

thinkin of changing to

wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
1-10 prop 50 mg eod
1-10 sust 125mg eod
1-10 deca 250mg 2x wk

10-26 eq 300mg 2x wk
10-28 test enan 300mg 2x wk
and maybe some more dbol on wks 6-12

i would either drop the eq down or riase your test a little on week 10-28.

also u can run the eq till week 27. as for the second run with dbol i would drop it. 10 weeks on dbol @ 50mg/ed is too much strain on the liver

**AustrianOAK14** · 10-12-2004, 08:30 AM

wow thats a big cycle how many cycles do you have under your belt?

**nathanw21** · 10-12-2004, 09:24 AM

weeks 1-10 i would do 500mg of test and 400mg of eq. otherwise i think that you might not be as happy with the second half as the first.

**dtr98** · 10-12-2004, 02:58 PM

thanks bros for you help/ideas. after input and rethinking,
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-18 eq250mg 2x wk
wk 1-18 test enan300mg 2x wk

18-27 deca 25mg 2x wk
18-28 prop 50 mg eod
18-28 sust 125mg eod

let me have it

**w_rballs** · 10-12-2004, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by dtr98

thanks bros for you help/ideas. after input and rethinking,
wk 1-4 dbol 50mg ed
wk 1-18 eq250mg 2x wk
wk 1-18 test enan300mg 2x wk

18-27 deca 25mg 2x wk
18-28 prop 50 mg eod
18-28 sust 125mg eod

let me have it

it looks good but what is the reason for switching tes esters? if it was me i would pick one and shoot it the whole way through

**dtr98** · 10-12-2004, 03:32 PM

i have the prop,sust,deca to use up, but not enough for a full cycle, that's way i wanted to run those 1st,
thanks again

**dtr98** · 10-13-2004, 04:01 PM

does the set-up look better??
wk 1-10 prop 50mg eod
wk 1-10 sust 125mg eod
wk 1-18 eq 250mg 2x wk

wk 10- 15 dbol 50mg ed
wk 10-27 deca 250mg 2x w
wk 10-28 test enan 300 mg 2x wk

then pct
thanks

**dtr98** · 10-14-2004, 09:50 AM

this is what i'm going with!!!

1-10 prop 50 mg eod
1-10 sust 125mg eod
1-10 deca 300mg 2x wk
5-9 dbol 50mg ed

10-27 eq 300mg 2x wk
10-28 test enan 400mg 2x wk