First Cycle

[Conductor077]

12 weeks
1-12 test enth 500mg
1-12 deca 400mg



Nolva on hand always

PCT will start third week after last shot and planned to go for three weeks

What do you think about just doing Nolva for pct or should I definetly use clomid Ive been doing some research and from what I understand Nolva will work just fine for PCT, but Ive seen lots of different opinions.

Also how would you guys go about injecting the test will be 250mg/ml and the Deca 200mg/ml..... Im thinking 500mg test on Monday, 400mg Deca on Friday

I know the good old bread and butter calls for D-Bol but I think this is plenty or ya think I should add some for 4 weeks?

Thanks for opinions

5"9
210
15%

[fitnessguy]

go one week longer with the test.
you need something such as b-6 for the gyno produced by deca (nolva works with the test)
DEFINATELY use clomid during pct
for the injections, i would go 250 test and 200deca (same syringe) mondays and thursdays
some may say test only for first but the choice is yours.

[fitnessguy]

oh yeah good luck!, my roommate is on the same cycle and has had great strength gains and up almost 20 pounds. he took d-bol for the jump start though.
all 3 might be a little much for a first time but again the choice is yours

[)(PimP JuicE)(]

split up the injections...

Do 250test mon. 200deca mon.
250test thurs. 200 deca thurs.

break up injections every 3.5 days.
and run test one week longer than deca.
and deffinatly use clomid.

[Braz_Machine]

I like to do Dbol throughout the whole cycle. Just like the bodybuilders did back in the good old days. But I am an experienced user. You will want to wait until your 5th or 6th cycle to do this.

Braz_Machine

[Conductor077]

OK Thanks Guys, Im still debating on the Deca I might go with EQ Same amount

Clomid will be three weeks 100mg daily
Nolva 20mg daily

sounds good?

Do ya think three weeks is long enough, and I planned on starting three weeks after last injection or should I go sooner.

[MrMent1on]

here is what I recommend.
1-12 Test E 2 x week
1-4 d-bol 30mg ED
1-10 Deca 2 x week
PCT as they said.
The D-bol is to jump start ur cycle, if not, you wont feel anything until 4-5 weeks when the Test & deca kick in. but thats just my opinion

[Braz_Machine]

Three weeks if plenty long.

Braz_Machine

[MrMent1on]

OK Thanks Guys, Im still debating on the Deca I might go with EQ Same amount

Clomid will be three weeks 100mg daily
Nolva 20mg daily

sounds good?

Do ya think three weeks is long enough, and I planned on starting three weeks after last injection or should I go sooner.

Depending o nwhat you are looking for the Deca is better for Bulk Mass while the EQ is better for leaner Mass. if ur no tthinking competition I'd go with the Deca for Bulk Mass.

[Conductor077]

Mr Ment1on ..... You just sold me, that looks perfect now is b-6 really necessary? I honestly thought nolva would be enough for any gyno symptoms.

Thanks

[MrMent1on]

honestly the b-6 is not totally necessary. I'm taking some heavy sh!t right now like Test E 1000mg/week plus.... and I do not use b-6. I use Nolvadex 20mg Ed and Arimidex .25mg ED and i'm fine. if you cannot find Arimidex, get some Letro from http://www.anabolicreview-research.com/ and you will be fine, its a liquid form of Arimixed but supposely better and legal to purchase.

[Conductor077]

Mr Ment1on I sent you a pm