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  1. 03-10-2002, 01:49 AM #1
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    Talking South African Newbie (thanks)

    Hi, I live in South Africa and am very glad to have found this web site.

    I have being training for 3 years on/off (Natrual)
    Height : 1.74m
    Weight: 75kg

    I am planing to take my first cycle using the following (Newbie Section)

    Deca ,Prima,Winnie

    I have spoken to some local guys and get negative comments on this cycle.I dont want to get to big, my ideal weight would be 90kg, and I;m not planning to enter any compition at this stage.
    I'm worried about the side effects (What's New).
    The other thing is that i cant find Deca + Prima in (Gauteng) South Africa + they say it will be to expensive for us south Africans to use the cycle above.

    Oh, well I hope I can get some responses from the Big Boys
    ( small boys are welcome too ),all advice would be gladly appreciated.

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  2. 03-10-2002, 02:43 AM #2
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    Welcome aboard bro.

    Advice on side effects? well...... the main ones you will hear about are "deca dick" and "gyno" - make sure you have some novaldex on hand in case of gyno and some clomid for the end of the cycle to get everything working again.

    remember though that these sides are different for each person. i dont seem to suffer from gyno at all, and only very breifly with deca dick (not being able to keep it up/ get it up)

    most guys suggest running test with the deca to counter this problem. as for prices and supplies im afraid i cant help you there, one thing to note though - if you get an offer of a supply from this post IGNORE IT!! scammers will watch posts like this then PM you and try to part you with your cash!! dont accept a source unless it comes from a moderator on this board!

    kick back and chill for a bit and im sure more people will jump on this thread and point you in the right direction.
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  3. 03-10-2002, 02:50 AM #3
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    Welcome Bro. Like Kaz said I would'nt do deca without test If I were you. Also 15lbs is probably obtainable naturally IMHO
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  4. 03-10-2002, 04:17 AM #4
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    Re: South African Newbie

    Originally posted by morpheus
    Hi, I live in South Africa and am very glad to have found this web site.

    Oh, well I hope I can get some responses from the Big Boys, some advice would be gladly appreciated.

    Always!
    I hope not being a "big boy" its okay for me to welcome ya to AR as well.

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  5. 03-10-2002, 07:13 AM #5
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    Welcome abaord bro!

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  6. 03-10-2002, 07:26 AM #6
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    So you want advice from the big boys, here some. Wait awhile longer before hitting a cycle. You'll gain 15lbs very easy naturally at your level.
    However I feel like that advice will be ignored, so I suggest a couple of hours researching this board should provide the answers.

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  7. 03-10-2002, 12:30 PM #7
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    South African Newbie 2

    Thanks guy's for your posts, I feel great about all your comments and welcoming.
    I really am determined to try a cycle, tell me if i took a 8 week cycle using Deca +Winstrol how much weight do you think I could put on ? I Know that this cycle is not much, like nothing spectacular but It will be my first attempt.
    I was planning to use primabolan with this cycle but i'm starting to feel that a can't afford it, the Dollar/Rand exchange is a nightmare.
    If any of you could recommend a better alternative to my cycle I would be greatfull, keep in mind I'm a newbie and side affectes are still a concern.

    My cycle
    WEEK SUPPLEMENT/MG SUPPLEMENT/MG
    1 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD
    2 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD
    3 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD
    4 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD
    5 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD
    6 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD
    7 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD
    8 WINSTROL/50MG/EOD DECA-DUR/400MG/EOD

    SUPPLEMENT/MG
    Week 7 CLOMID/100MG DAILY
    week 8 CLOMID/50MG DAILY

    By the way what does EOD stand for ?
    (sorry for the dump question)

    And would you guys recommend clomid or hcg ?

    Thanks KAZ, Ron,Bouncer,Rocket, canes4ever (small boy)

    Always
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  8. 03-10-2002, 12:40 PM #8
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    eod=every other day

    peace bb79
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  9. 03-10-2002, 12:46 PM #9
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  10. 03-10-2002, 04:38 PM #10
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    400 mg of deca is way to much for EOD. 400-600 a week is more like it. Also if you not gonna put test in there, see if you can get ahold of some eq andreplace the deca with it. I personally like eq. Sides are mild and you will keep more of your gains.
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  11. 03-10-2002, 06:42 PM #11
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    welcome to the real world morpheus.

    primo does not stack well with deca . both stack well with winny though. you may want to try eq and winny. eq is cheap and you'll be less prone to deca related side effects.
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