newbe starting first cycle need vets help thanks

**nascar** · 03-10-2002, 12:39 PM

im new and this is what im looking at please help me fine tune things
fina1-10 150 once aweek or should i do 50mg eod
cyp 3-12 200
deca 5-14 200ml

then planning a cutting cycle .and how long should i wait after bulking cycle.
fina1-4 150
fina5-8 225
winny 2-8 150
should i split my winny and fina doses to evry other day
and help would be greatly appr.
only able to get clomid . and how much per day .

**arthurb999** · 03-10-2002, 01:13 PM

If this is your first cycle, just use the test and deca . 400 mg test and 400 mg deca for 10 weeks. Also, time on = time off.

**EXCESS** · 03-10-2002, 01:31 PM

Just like Arthur said!

**4plates** · 03-10-2002, 04:25 PM

i agree with arthur ane excess on this one bro,
keep it simple for a while test /deca is a nice cycle,get some dbol and add 30-50 mg ed for wk 1-4.
leave the tren for a while,until you develop a tolerance to the basic gear,plus it should be run everyday and sticking youself ed isnt a nice thing (well except some crazy bastards)hehe
ooops sorry you were asking for a vets opinion,sorry disreguard my post

**Dr.Evil** · 03-10-2002, 06:45 PM

the cycle you outlined is pretty much a 16 week cycle. too long.

keep it simple like the others said.

cyp 400mg 1-8
deca 300mg 1-8
dbol or winny 25mg ed 3-10
clomid 100mg-50mg-50mg 11-13

**4plates** · 03-10-2002, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by Dr.Evil
the cycle you outlined is pretty much a 16 week cycle. too long.

keep it simple like the others said.

cyp 400mg 1-8
deca 300mg 1-8
dbol or winny 25mg ed 3-10
clomid 100mg-50mg-50mg 11-13

bro i dont recomend dbol for 7 wk even at low doses like 25 mg,and i feel it should be done in the first 4 wks

**Dr.Evil** · 03-10-2002, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by 4plates

bro i dont recomend dbol for 7 wk even at low doses like 25 mg,and i feel it should be done in the first 4 wks

i prefer to have the dbol at the end when i can take advantage of the synergy between dbol and deca , 2 steroids working both inside and outside of the nucleus. dbol at the beginning is nice too for a kickstart, but i feel that this is almost using dbol alone.

low dose for 7 wks may be too much for some. my liver can handle this amount better than it can handle a higher dose for a short period of time, so that's why i'm recommending the longer lower dosed cycle, but i realize this may not be for everyone, so the best thing is to always keep tabs on the blood samples.