sust/deca cycle

**steel10** · 03-10-2002, 02:02 PM

New to the board here, but have enjoyed reading over the past posts-- so thanks.

I just wanted a little advise on my 2nd ever cylce. My first cylce was this summer and was 10 amps of sust 250 over 8 weeks. Put on 7-8 lbs and got stronger.

My stats are: 5'8'', 197-200lbs @ 11-12%bf. 22 years old. Dedicated lifter.

I was planning on doing 10 weeks of:
250 mg sust 250/week
300mg Tkk deca /week

I have never done deca and wanted to see what I would get off of it --but starting to think the sust should be bumped up to 500mg/week. What do you all think? I am trying to stay conservative as it is only my second cycle, but still want to get some results.

Also, if I did bump up the sust, would it be bad to do 250mg sust per week with 250 of omnadren test (as I know they are the same deal)-- the reason being I already have 10 amps of sust and if buying another 10 amps thought amnadren would save some cash and be just as good....

Anyway, thanks.

**4plates** · 03-10-2002, 02:17 PM

sus and omna are pretty much the same thing so if you got 10 amps of it it will be good to run @500 w/sus.
what you are planning is a great beginners cycle and you should react greatly to it if your diet and training are up to par.
alot of people add dbol to the mix @30-50 mg ed for the first 4 wks.
rember to take clomid 3 wks post cycle @300mg day 1,100mg for 10 days,50mg for 10 more days(36 50mg tabs)

**steel10** · 03-10-2002, 02:36 PM

4Plates, thanks for the advise. Just to make sure I am clear on what you are saying-- I should definetely bump the sust up to 500mg/week with the deca 300mg/week instead of running the sust at 250mg/week. I thought about running d-bol, but this is only my second cycle and I would prefer to keep things as basic as possible (while getting good results) so that each subsequent cycle, I can either up a dosage or add a new element (such as an oral like dbol ).

Anyway, thank you and any more advice (and/or opinions) would be greatly appreciated.

**king cobra** · 03-10-2002, 03:18 PM

hey 4 plates why do u recomened so much clomid?

**4plates** · 03-10-2002, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by king cobra
hey 4 plates why do u recomened so much clomid?

300 mg on day 1 to saturate the receptors
100 mg for 10 days the norm
50 mg for 10 days the norm

you could probably get away with 100/50 mg for 7 days but it cheap enough ,why worry.

**Dr.Evil** · 03-10-2002, 06:47 PM

just as 4plates said, although that amount of clomid gives me some nasty acne. if you have problems with this then cut back. if not then pop those pills