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    please tell me why not this cycle?

    any help is appreciated! stats 212lbs 9.3% hopeing 220-205 4-5% for spring break!
    week 1-18 test enanthate 400mg
    week 13-20 fina 50mged
    week16-20 prop 100mged
    week 2-8 t-3 200mg taper down
    week 8-13 bladderwreck (t-3 recovery)
    week13-18 t-3
    clen 2weeks on off with eca
    4weeks of pct

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    I'd up the dose of the test enth to 500mg ew split into 2 shots e3d. Personally, I think that tren needs to be run a mionimum of 8 weeks. I would adjust the weeks that you are using tren to weeks 11-19. Also, you can run prop for wk18-20 since the enth will still be alive and kicking.

    Everything else I see looks good. I've read about not taking clen while using juice and just using it for PCT, but I am no expert so I will bump this to the bros with more experience with clen and juice.

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    test is uped to 500mg then
    the reason I have prop for 4 weeks is becuase I heard it takes like two weeks for prop to kick in! I am not sure though?

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    Where's your anti e's? Ldex, letro, nolva etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBaraso
    Where's your anti e's? Ldex, letro, nolva etc?
    In addition to that you will also need B-6 or bromo to keep prolactin levels down.

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    Where is your HCG ????? I like my balls I treat them well. And I havnt even done a cycle that long yet.. yet....

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    maybe run the prop out for another week or two..JMO...good luck

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    sorry forgot I will get 0.25mg liquadex I usually don't need nolva when I use liquadex but I have it on the side. the ball thing. what does your balls have to do with anything. I will like a ****ing mashine on this.I just broke off two long relationship back-back. not looking for another one. I just want to ****. And with bromo I think I am using fina like 6 weeks I don't really think I need bromo but may I do, not sure!
    Last edited by 2timer; 10-15-2004 at 01:58 PM.

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    You will if you nipples start lactating!!

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    do I really need hcg on this cycle. sex put apart. my balls are coming back right? from 18 weeks cycle!

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    For me anything over 12 weeks gets a 500iu dose of HCG twice every other week. Starting week 5-6.

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    is 5000iu of hcg enough? for the cycle after week 12?

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    Yeah you could make do with one 5000iu kit. Each kit will give you 10 shots or 10 weeks of HCG . Especially with a long cycle like that, the HCG will make all the difference with being able to keep the gains you make when you come off. It will help your HTPA rebound much quicker. JMO

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    thanks alot for all the help. the cycle starts monday. wish me luck and lots of growing and fat shredding!

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