Little Help for Deca/Test - First Cycle Question- Newbie

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 07:33 AM

Hello Brothers

I have a several questions for you senior memebers

I started doing a Deca only cycle for about 8 weeks...Good gains....After reading your posts daily I realized how important it was to run test with every cycle, I did not want to be shut down hard, So now I am taking Test Cyp. But did I take it too late in the cycle?

I figured this cycle might work.

Week 1-8 Deca
Week 8-15 Test
Letro ed .25-.5
Tamox - ed
B6 - ed

What do you guys think? Any and all opinios are appreciated. I am 28, 5'10, 220.

**KeyMastur** · 10-19-2004, 07:42 AM

are you already done with the cycle ??

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 07:45 AM

Here is the mg usage for clarification:

Deca -300mg - week 1-3
Deca - 450mg - week 4-5
Deca 600mg - week 5-6
Deca 300mg - week 6-7
Deca 200 mg - week 8

Test Cyp 200mg- week 8
Test cyp 250mg - week 9
Test Cyp 400mg - week 10

I know you guys would recomed 500mg a week but I jsut wanted to see what type of reaction it would have on me first and tehn gradualy increae the dosage

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 07:46 AM

No

not done yet I am on week 10 right now. I mixed the deca and test week 8 and 9
200mg deca
200 mg test

I ewas plannig on a 15 week cycle

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 07:56 AM

Is a 15 week cycle, spliting it up, 8 weeks of one and 8 weeks of another Ok? Or am I going to see problem?

**MrMent1on** · 10-19-2004, 08:02 AM

the only type of reaction you are going to get is some nice big red pimples. dude learn something today. when ever you are doing a cycle... you the same mg (example 500mg) from start to finish, that way your blood levels stay stable. I use to taper up and down (pyramid) and always wondered why do I get such nasty pimples. until I was told to keep it at one dose thru out the cycle, now I'm pimple free.

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 08:06 AM

Thanks MrMent1on, I appreciate you advice, so the question is, do I take the test @ 500mg starting next week (I am doing this once a week) or do I stay at a lower dose?

The second question would be: Its 500mg a week right? Not every 4 days or 3days...this was the impression I was under based on the reseach done on this forum prior to taking them

**MrMent1on** · 10-19-2004, 08:10 AM

ok i've never used cyp but if I remember correctly it only comes in 200mg, I'd do 400mg a week split into 2 shots maybe monday & thursday. also 2 weeks after your last shop you need to do your PCT.

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 08:10 AM

Anyone?

**Homer 8** · 10-19-2004, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by MrMent1on

the only type of reaction you are going to get is some nice big red pimples. dude learn something today. when ever you are doing a cycle... you the same mg (example 500mg) from start to finish, that way your blood levels stay stable. I use to taper up and down (pyramid) and always wondered why do I get such nasty pimples. until I was told to keep it at one dose thru out the cycle, now I'm pimple free.

i wouldnt say its the only reaction, his little man might be really pissed and i put the emphsisas on little with an 8 week deca only cycle

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 08:14 AM

200mg is correct, its called Teston by QV

so twice a week, got it

2 weeks after would be Clomid theropy....I am using the standard method that is posted, 300 day1, 100 wek2 50 wk3

Do I keep using the Tamox and Letro through PCT or do I taper off all that as well?

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 08:15 AM

Homer,

thats why I added the test, so the "little man" would not be an issue. Are you saying its too late?

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 08:22 AM

Any other opinions? I gotta go to work soon

**MrMent1on** · 10-19-2004, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Bigbeast

Homer,

thats why I added the test, so the "little man" would not be an issue. Are you saying its too late?

if your asking him that question then its not too late because you would have already known and yes your PCT sound fine keep everything in i ttil the end.

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 08:29 AM

cool

I was wondering why my girl friend has been limping latley?

If you dont mind me asking what cycles have you done? I want to on another one in about 3 months or so. I figure twice a year is a good way to go

**MrMent1on** · 10-19-2004, 08:51 AM

dude to do like I'm doing you need at least 5 to 6 cycles under your beltI'm using roughly about 10 compounds. just the first one scares most people Test E 1000mg/weekly. 24 weeks/6months. I also have HGH and Slin in there, if your interested let me know.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-19-2004, 08:56 AM

The cycle you proposed is horrible!!!! You run it like that and YES, you will defnitely be shut down. It roughly takes 4 weeks for Test to kick in as well as DECA . You NEED to run TEST starting day one, and I strongly suggest you run deca longer than 8 weeks. Like everyone said, keep your doses consistent.

Here is how you should run your cycle...

Week 1-11 Test Cyp 500mg (shooting 250mg on Mon., 250mg on Thurs)
Week 1-10 DECA 400mg (split doses up with test above. shoot in same syringe)
Nolva - 10mg ED
L dex - .25mg ED
PCT - Clomid - 2 weeks after last test injection.

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 08:58 AM

Buylongterm

Keep I mind I already did 8 weeks of just deca . I just got my test and have only been on it for 3 weeks, the reason I did this was so I di not get shut down. So I cut the deca down and am now runnign just test

**MrMent1on** · 10-19-2004, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

The cycle you proposed is horrible!!!! You run it like that and YES, you will defnitely be shut down. It roughly takes 4 weeks for Test to kick in as well as DECA . You NEED to run TEST starting day one, and I strongly suggest you run deca longer than 8 weeks. Like everyone said, keep your doses consistent.

Here is how you should run your cycle...

Week 1-11 Test Cyp 500mg (shooting 250mg on Mon., 250mg on Thurs)
Week 1-10 DECA 400mg (split doses up with test above. shoot in same syringe)
Nolva - 10mg ED
L dex - .25mg ED
PCT - Clomid - 2 weeks after last test injection.

I'm not sure that you read what he said correctly, just in case you didn't. here's whats going on. this guy did a whole 8 weeks already on deca only and just realized that he should have had test in there, so he's adding in the test now thats all the deca went 8 week already. so give him your opinion from there.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-19-2004, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Bigbeast

Buylongterm

Keep I mind I already did 8 weeks of just deca. I just got my test and have only been on it for 3 weeks, the reason I did this was so I di not get shut down. So I cut the deca down and am now runnign just test

I didn't realize you've already done the cycle. No matter what happens, you still are going to be shut down. I would stop the cycle and take this as a lesson. I'd stop taking Test and being your PCT. Get on some Tribulus to help you out.

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 09:05 AM

I did the test so that it would counter the deca , If I did 8 weeks of deca follwed by PCT, odds are are would be shut down pretty hard. But by adding Test in the mix now, it should rebound enough so that the testies are not shut down, also keeping in mind that the PCT would be more effective with test already in the system

my opinion based on reading posts

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 09:06 AM

Define what your opinon is by "Shut down"

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-19-2004, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bigbeast

I did the test so that it would counter the deca , If I did 8 weeks of deca follwed by PCT, odds are are would be shut down pretty hard. But by adding Test in the mix now, it should rebound enough so that the testies are not shut down, also keeping in mind that the PCT would be more effective with test already in the system

my opinion based on reading posts

I totally disagree. Why? Because TEST shuts down your natural production as well. The main reason Test is used (besides it's a wonderful drug) is so that when your body is shut down you at least have a sex drive. If you did a Test only cycle, what do you think happens to your testicles??? What do you think happens to your natural production? The DECA has shut you down. All your doing is prolonging your PCT. Again, take this as a learning lesson that you didn't run your cycle correctly.

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 09:12 AM

So based on that statment, what PCT should I be taking to avoid the complete"shut down" And more imprtantly how long will the "shut down" last? What areas will it be effecting?

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-19-2004, 09:16 AM

How many weeks have you been taking test???

**Bigbeast** · 10-19-2004, 09:17 AM

3 weeks of test

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-19-2004, 09:21 AM

Well, it should just be starting to kick in, but not enough to make any difference. I would begin PCT with CLOMID and get yourself some Tribulus to help you along with way. Also, if your having issues keeping a hard on, again, get some Viagra. I wish I had better advice bro. Give yourself plenty of time for your body to recover. Time on= time off. Make sure you get blood work done before jumping back on. Best of luck!!!

Peace,

BLT

**BUYLONGTERM** · 10-19-2004, 09:22 AM

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?t=94626

Actually read up on Pheedno's PCT.

**Homer 8** · 10-19-2004, 09:29 AM

man i aint trying to flame u i just cant understand how u havent had any problems with deca dick running it 8 weeks alone. i think buylongterm gave u the best advice so do ur pct study and the use ass

**workdude** · 10-19-2004, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by buylongterm

Well, it should just be starting to kick in, but not enough to make any difference. I would begin PCT with CLOMID and get yourself some Tribulus to help you along with way. Also, if your having issues keeping a hard on, again, get some Viagra. I wish I had better advice bro. Give yourself plenty of time for your body to recover. Time on= time off. Make sure you get blood work done before jumping back on. Best of luck!!!

Peace,

BLT

This is great advise. The only thing I would add is spend more time planning out your next cycle. Get some advise from the veterans and you'll be fine. Good luck bro.