Help on Test Prop Tren cycle

**MASStermind** · 10-20-2004, 06:04 PM

This is my 2nd cycle. Did test E first cycle.

Doing an 8 week cycle of 1cc of test prop and tren each, so two cc daily injections. taking 100 mg prop / day, 75 mg / tren day.

Here are my questions

1. What side effects should I expect
2. How much of a gain should i see with proper nutrition and exercise.
3. Will I get more cut?
4. How much nolvadex should I be taking daily to combat gyno etc.

Thanks guys.

**BigMike J** · 10-20-2004, 06:31 PM

Test prop and tren kick in fast for me.. 8-10 days.. strength gains and pumps are great.

Negative Side effects:

elevated bp, possible kidney pains, possible gyno. aggression (tren related)
Side effects also depend on dosage which i'm not sure what your are going to be.. you should have mentioned that. 1cc does not say much.. how many mg's/cc?

Gains: depends on diet. 20 pounds is possible.

will i get cut : depends on diet and exercise. choose on or the other.

Nolva: For the test prop 20mgs a day. this will not help with tren related gyno

If you are gyno prone take it daily. I never take it, but have it on hand just in case. It's cheap so you should always keep it around..

By the way you should run the test atleast 2 weeks longer then the tren.

You could have answered all your questions with a simple search..

**MASStermind** · 10-20-2004, 06:57 PM

thanks bro, been searching and reading but everyone has different opinions in search. Not sure how to convert ML to MG etc right now i'm confused on that one. I see stuff that says 75mg of tren or 100 or 300 mg not sure how that relates to CC

**MASStermind** · 10-20-2004, 07:05 PM

taking 100 mg prop / day

75 mg / tren day

**BigMike J** · 10-20-2004, 07:05 PM

1cc=1mL fIXED

**Angelis** · 10-20-2004, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by BigMike J

1cc=1mg

Should fix this 1cc=1ml not mg

**Angelis** · 10-20-2004, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by MASStermind

thanks bro, been searching and reading but everyone has different opinions in search. Not sure how to convert ML to MG etc right now i'm confused on that one. I see stuff that says 75mg of tren or 100 or 300 mg not sure how that relates to CC

Ok bro let me try to explain this the best I can.... 1cc=1ml there one and the same... now as for the relation between mg and ml there is none at all depends on what concentration your gear is... look at ur label if it says something like Deca 300mg/ml, then thats 300mg for every ml (or cc) that u shoot.

**BigMike J** · 10-20-2004, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Angelis

Should fix this 1cc=1ml not mg

oops.. lol sorrry

hell no

1CC=1ML

**m16a2** · 10-24-2004, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by BigMike J

By the way you should run the test atleast 2 weeks longer then the tren .

You could have answered all your questions with a simple search..

I believe the half-life of tren is about the same as prop. There is no need to run prop longer than the tren.

But it would be nice if someone else would back that up.

**BigMike J** · 10-24-2004, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by rampage76

I believe the half-life of tren is about the same as prop. There is no need to run prop longer than the tren.

But it would be nice if someone else would back that up.

There are pleny here who will back what i have said.. do a search

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...st+prop%2Ftren

**m16a2** · 10-25-2004, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by BigMike J

There are pleny here who will back what i have said.. do a search

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...st+prop%2Ftren

Yeah, alot of bros do back that up. But my point is still legitimate... tren shuts you down hard either way, I know this from experience. And doing prop only for an extra week or 2 doesn't really offer any logical basis for helping you recover. In fact, it just keeps your natural HTPA shut down a little longer, so my rationale challenges this. I try not to take things for face value, SOMEONE has to play devil's advocate!